What DVD / Video did you watch last night ?

[Reno]

oh they don't give you back story and explain who's in control do they? I thought they managed to make it really ominous by giving nothing away. It feels like a machine is playing with them - the key is maths and logic - while human emotion brings about their downfall; envy, paranoia, hate etc. The autistic lad gets out because he doesn't react emotionally -he works in numbers and patterns, he's the closest to a computer out of all the humans inside.

I think it was damn clever - the clue system didn't need to be more complex because it would have shifted the focus onto the "game". The surroundings repeated themselves like some kind of hell. If the clues became more varied it would just have been another race against time thriller - the threat of being trapped in there forever, in those neverending boxes freaked me right out.

Not sure what you are responding to here, but I was talking about the sequel and prequel which do show us people who are in control of the Cube and which were not nearly as good as the first one (which is all you appear to be talking about). As I said, I liked the original.

 

[Moggy]

oh they don't give you back story and explain who's in control do they?

Well yes, and no. Even by the end of the third one (the prequel) it is no clearer what the cube is and who from the outside is involved with it. It basically adds questions without answering them. Still definitely worth watching themto see how they add politics and religion into it. Second one is the worst IMO, Cube Zero (the prequel) on the other hand is much more interesting and sort of brings it all full-circle.

 

[Orang Utan]

Ooh where did you get Season 2?

Deadwood 2 - episode 4.

Ellsworth's analogy to Alma Garret regarding Wollcott and Tolliver's rumours re: the future of land claims is so brilliant, such consummate fucking writing, it justifies the whole series in itself.

i've never come across language like this on TV before.

 

[Pieface]

Not sure what you are responding to here, but I was talking about the sequel and prequel which do show us people who are in control of the Cube and which were not nearly as good as the first one (which is all you appear to be talking about). As I said, I liked the original.

Cube - like it said in the title to the post. I went off on one - I do apologise for confusing you

 

[Dubversion]

Ooh where did you get Season 2?

lovefilm - i'm ripping them as i go so you're welcome to borrow them

 

[Orang Utan]

ooh yes please!

 

[Dubversion]

ooh yes please!

if pie face is going home before Book Group i'll get her to bring you disc one, if not i'll bring it to PROD.. they're proper copies as well, not avi ones.

 

[Pieface]

I am not.

Find another mule.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

This afternoon I watched Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man's Chest, which was extremely disappointing. I felt that they lost most of what made the original film good, the plot was faaar too convoluted for what this sort of thing should be, and it was too long by half.

It felt like in about the last 40 minutes they suddenly woke up and remembered they were meant to be making a Pirates of the Caribbean film. The last 40 were hugely enjoyable, I don't know why they felt they had to make it so convoluted and endless to get there.

Oh, but the Kraken is possibly the most stunning CGI beast I've seen yet.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Oh and it was inexplicably dark at times. Too scary for a kid's film I felt.

 

[muser]

downfall - bruno ganz as hilter was an inspired choice. There was aspects of the film that didn't sit well with me, as if the scriptwriter was revising history with post modern thoughts on the reich. The nazis were evil enough without them having to remind the viewer of it.


ps I know the film was inspired by 2 books, one of the authors having been in hitler's bunker at the time of his demise.

 

[Reno]

downfall - bruno ganz as hilter was an inspired choice. There was aspects of the film that didn't sit well with me, as if the scriptwriter was revising history with post modern thoughts on the reich. The nazis were evil enough without them having to remind the viewer of it.


ps I know the film was inspired by 2 books, one of the authors having been in hitler's bunker at the time of his demise.

Not sure what you mean with "revising history".

Hitler's secretary Traudl Junge, who also is one of the central characters in "Downfall", wrote one of the books the film is based on. There is a fascination feature length interview with her called "Blind Spot - Hitler's Secretary" which is well worth checking out if you found "Downfall" interesting.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0311320/

 

[Leica]

Damn Reno, you do sometimes take the words from my mouth.

 

[muser]

Not sure what you mean with "revising history".

Hitler's secretary Traudl Junge, who also is one of the central characters in "Downfall", wrote one of the books the film is based on. There is a fascination feature length interview with her called "Blind Spot - Hitler's Secretary" which is well worth checking out if you found "Downfall" interesting.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0311320/

The point I was making is best summed up by goebbel's remark "the people gave us the mandate to govern and they will have to live with the consequences".
or words to that effect. I can see how he might have uttered those words, given the circumstances. But it smacks of him, viewing the third reich as a mistake, by the people and of itself. Would a man so entrenched in national socialism come to that conclusion.
Also traudl junge makes a comment to the effect that her parents had warned her of taking up with the nazis. Not everyone in german were nazi sympathisers, but for her family to have permitted her to go to berlin in the first place means they didn't have too many qualms about their integrity.
I maybe being harsh but that permeated my thoughts towards the end of the film.

 

[Leica]

it smacks of him, viewing the third reich as a mistake, by the people and of itself.

It doesn't sound like that to me, if you take the words "live with the consequences" literally, as neutral.

Also traudl junge makes a comment to the effect that her parents had warned her of taking up with the nazis. Not everyone in german were nazi sympathisers, but for her family to have permitted her to go to berlin in the first place means they didn't have too many qualms about their integrity.

I am not getting your point here.

 

[Reno]

muser you are misinterpreting how this was meant. Goebbels felt that the Nazi's and only the Nazi's were right. Hitler and Goebbels blamed everybody but themselves and in the end they even blamed the German people for loosing the war. Their megalomania had reached a point where they came to believe that the Germans weren't worthy of them. This has been documented, so I don't agree that this is revisionism.

You've also lost me with the second part of your point. Junge was considered a grown woman by the time she took the job, so why would it be her parents fault that she got involved with something, the extend of which wasn't entirely clear at that point. Should they have locked her in her room or what do you mean ?

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

finally got round to finishing of the miyazaki stuff by watching howl's moving castle.. the story itself i found to be a bit light on the ground but some excellent animation

 

[jodal]

Weeds - the tv series
Me and my gf are really getting into this. It reminds me a bit of 6 Feet Under.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Angel A

Luc Bessons first film for 7 years.
Nice but I can't really say anything about it without ruining it. Not amazing but very enjoyable on a monday afternoon.

 

[jeff_leigh]

Weeds - the tv series
Me and my gf are really getting into this. It reminds me a bit of 6 Feet Under.

I'll have to check this one out not had a TV for about 15 months now so i'm pretty much out of the loop, but 6 Feet Under was a series I was well impressed with.

 

[muser]

I am not getting your point here.

then please feel free to reread my post, until you do get it.

 

[muser]

muser you are misinterpreting how this was meant. Goebbels felt that the Nazi's and only the Nazi's were right. Hitler and Goebbels blamed everybody but themselves and in the end they even blamed the German people for loosing the war. Their megalomania had reached a point where they came to believe that the Germans weren't worthy of them. This has been documented, so I don't agree that this is revisionism.

You've also lost me with the second part of your point. Junge was considered a grown woman by the time she took the job, so why would it be her parents fault that she got involved with something, the extend of which wasn't entirely clear at that point. Should they have locked her in her room or what do you mean ?

On your first point, I do agree. Without having read any indepth historical text concerning the nazi hierorachy, I can't make a valid criticism.

Your second point is taking modern values and applying it to the past. Elder family members had a greater say in the doings of their children, even ones that we consider (now) to be mature. To be 21 in the 40's was generally seen as adolescent, barring those that had a family of their own at that age (and in some cases even then).

 

[Leica]

then please feel free to reread my post, until you do get it.

I have reread it, but I fail to see how Junge saying that her parents had warned her is evidence that the film is revising history.

Do you think that she lied? How do you know? Why would she lie? And what does it matter in fact whether they had warned her or not?

Can you please explain where you see the revisionism?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Click.

Depressing.

 

[Reno]

Your second point is taking modern values and applying it to the past. Elder family members had a greater say in the doings of their children, even ones that we consider (now) to be mature. To be 21 in the 40's was generally seen as adolescent, barring those that had a family of their own at that age (and in some cases even then).

Actually you've got it the wrong way round again. My mother was working by the time she was 16 and engaged a year later and this was in Germany just after the war. People had to grow up much sooner especially during hard times. By the time Junge took the job she was 22, got married a year after and was very much an adult. In any case you are getting fixated on irrelevant details and I'm not sure what your point is are how this is supposed to prove historical revisionism in the film. There was no one blueprint for family dynamics in Germany during the 40's.

 

[Juice Terry]

The Wire Season 1, 9 - 11

Episode 10 Didn't see that coming.

This just gets better and better.

 

[elevendayempire]

Crash. The one with Don Cheadle and Thandie Newton, not the one about car fetishists. It was pretty good.

SG

 

[purves grundy]

United States of Leland.

Excellent, although I'm still not quite sure why leland killed that kid. Or maybe that's the point, and I missed it. But still enjoyed it, esp Kev Spacey

 

[brokenyolk]

Crash. The one with Don Cheadle and Thandie Newton, not the one about car fetishists. It was pretty good.

SG

Oh no it wasn't!

(i could post a full critique, but hey it's panto season! The last scene alone had enough cheese in it to keep Wallace happy for months)

 

[Reno]

Read My Lips for about the sixth time or so. Brilliant thriller/romance/character study by the director of The Beat That My Heart Skipped and one of my favourite films of the last ten years.