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What DVD / Video did you watch last night? (pt3)

When film stars who mostly do action give a just-about adequate performance in a drama, people often fall over themselves to praise them to high heaven. Same with Bruce Willis in The 6th Sense and Tom Cruise in Magnolia.
 
The much hated 1976 version of King Kong, for sentimental reasons. It is pretty crap and the effects look dire now, but there are some good things about it. Some of the satire on US corporations is genuinely funny, John Barry's score is lovely and Jessica Lange is still the cutest girl in the monkey's paw. The end on top of the World Trade Centre has aquired some unintentional poignancy since.

I havw quite a soft spot for that version, I mean it is pretty shit but there are some good actors in it and it is enjoyable enough :)
 
When film stars who mostly do action give a just-about adequate performance in a drama, people often fall over themselves to praise them to high heaven. Same with Bruce Willis in The 6th Sense and Tom Cruise in Magnolia.
and van damme in jcvd.
has schwarzenegger ever been praised as an ACT-OR?
don't think so.
 
has schwarzenegger ever been praised as an ACT-OR?
don't think so.

He got a little bit of acclaim when he first started doing comedy roles and he has modest skills in doing a double take. He's always been wise in kowing where his limitations are and he's never done a proper dramatic role.
 
Kindergarten Cop and Twins both spring to mind for Arnie doing funny but only funny because it is arnie not actually killing everyone.

Also, D Niro in Meet the Parents. He didn't actually step outside of his intense gangsterish role but because of the situation he was in that became funny.

Once Upon A Time In America is a good example of why De Niro isn't THAT great- some of the performances in that were brilliant, notably the kid who plays his younger self. When he was playing the adult it was strangely one-note. You can forgive it for the beautiful visuals and the nuanced performances from other cast members.
 
I completely disagree with you on De Niro there. He's fantastic and rather subtle in Once Upon a Time in America, playing a man who is emotionally stunted. Elizabeth McGovern is the one role which is terribly miscast. She really suffers from the comparison with Jennifer Connelly, who is much better as the younger version.

I think you are pretty much on your own in classing him as an action films star there. De Niro is rightly considered as one of the great American actors and he never became as hammy and shouty as Pacino did in later years.
 
I thought DeNiro was great in Once Upon A Time......

Leone said he was amazing to work with, and they used the same filiming methods as on the westerns, filming without recording sound, but playing the soundtrack as they acted and then dubbing everything else later.

The role calls for him to play a man returning hesitantly to a past that was nothing but threat to him. He plays it like a scared and cautious human being, and that's what comes across.

Lots of films would have had the big bad gangster coming back and toughing it out, whereas the character of noodles has no balls left, just the knowledge that he had been a vicious, rapist, double-crossing cunt who shit on everything and everyone around him.

No wonder he was pensive.
 
I dunno, for me the only scene where he really really shone through was when explaining why he wouldn't kill the guy who had stolen his woman and his life. The way he delivered that speech about being old, hands shaking etc really made the film for me- although overall I preferred the childhood scenes. A damn long film but I never even noticed till the credits rolled and I looked at the clock. Makes me want to seek out more sergio
 
I completely disagree with you on De Niro there. He's fantastic and rather subtle in Once Upon a Time in America, playing a man who is emotionally stunted. Elizabeth McGovern is the one role which is terribly miscast. She really suffers from the comparison with Jennifer Connelly, who is much better as the younger version.

I think you are pretty much on your own in classing him as an action films star there. De Niro is rightly considered as one of the great American actors and he never became as hammy and shouty as Pacino did in later years.

What did you make of Carlito's Way, Reno? I recall thoroughly enjoying it but in compare/contrast with OUATIA it doesn't even touch the same league really imho.
 
What did you make of Carlito's Way, Reno? I recall thoroughly enjoying it but in compare/contrast with OUATIA it doesn't even touch the same league really imho.

Love the film and it's one of Pacino more restrained later performances. It's not in the same league as OUTIA which is one of my all time favourites, but it's still great.
 
sean penn is ridiculous in it. i've never rated him as an actor

Great wig though.

I liked him in it. I like the whole take on the 70s disco era in Carlito's Way which in terms of art direction for once isn't represented to look tacky and ridiculous.
 
I remember liking Carlito's Way when I was going through gangster films, not sure how it would play nowadays.

Last night I watched Reno's recommended Left Bank. I rated it too despite the occasional bad dialogue (possibly bad interpretation in the subs) and a bit far fetched in some of the plot. Like Let the right one in it was really nicely shot and a change to the usual horror stuff.

Then watched Au Revoir Les Enfants. Always imagined this wouldn't be much my cup of tea and started out thinking it wasn't really going anywhere. really liked it by the end though.

Tonight I've just watched Zidane: A 21st century portrait. I'm not a football fan but the little un was keen to watch it. I expected a regular documentary and despite being far from a straightforward film he stuck with it and thought it was great. I found it captivating, really amazing and beautifully made. For a film that just floats along the 90 minutes went really quickly, far quicker than a football match would. Mogwai score was a bonus, well recommended.
 
Kickass. A prepubescent girl slices the legs off grown men. Later, the same prepubescent girl gets the living shit kicked out of her by a grown man. But does he prevail? Fuck no!

It all happens to this on the soundtrack:

 
Crazy Heart - A truly predictable film in which Jeff Bridges does a fantastic impression of Kris Kristofferson as a drunken country singer going through all the usual movie cliches attached to films about musicians and Maggie Gyllenhaal is yet again cast as a stupid woman making stupid choices about stupid men.

When will she realise that playing weak women living shit lives is not really challenging acting?

Bridges was actually as good as always but why they didn't serve this role straight up to Kristofferson is beyond me. Maybe it was too close to home for him?
 
I dunno, for me the only scene where he really really shone through was when explaining why he wouldn't kill the guy who had stolen his woman and his life. The way he delivered that speech about being old, hands shaking etc really made the film for me- although overall I preferred the childhood scenes. A damn long film but I never even noticed till the credits rolled and I looked at the clock. Makes me want to seek out more sergio

Yes, the early scene when they are a young gang are the most fun.
 
Public Enemies - the cast's impressive (Depp, Bale, Cotillard), the film looks great, there are some exciting action sequences and the John Dillinger story is a fascinating one. But this never really engages as much as it should - it just never grabs you and makes you care about its characters. One of the problems could be Depp - who I usually like. He turns in a very low-key performance that makes me wonder if he was entirely comfortable in the role. Not bad but a bit disappointing.
 
Public Enemies - the cast's impressive (Depp, Bale, Cotillard), the film looks great, there are some exciting action sequences and the John Dillinger story is a fascinating one. But this never really engages as much as it should - it just never grabs you and makes you care about its characters. One of the problems could be Depp - who I usually like. He turns in a very low-key performance that makes me wonder if he was entirely comfortable in the role. Not bad but a bit disappointing.

I thought it was shit. A wasted opportunity. And factually bollocks.
 
Fish Tank - Suitably harrowing depiction of life on an Essex council estate complete with pitbull terriers, grimy flats and a cliched single mum straight off Jeremy Kyle. Young Katie Jarvis is great in it and the film's pretty engrossing, but I couldn't quite shake the feeling this was just 'chav porn' for the chattering classes to tut at.
 
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Fish Tank - Suitably harrowing depiction of life on an Essex council estate complete with pitbull terriers, grimy flats and a cliched single mum straight off Jeremy Kyle. Young Katie Jarvis is great in it and the film's pretty engrossing, but I couldn't quite shake the feeling this was just 'chav porn' for the chattering classes to tut at.

I didn't think there was anything hugely harrowing or particularely worthy to tut about in the film. That girls childhood was not much worse than my middleclass childhood and she's a likable character. There are dysfunctional parents in all classes and while the mother was a cow, she wasn't a complete monster.
 
"Straight to Hell" a surreal spoof spaghetti western by Alex Cox starring Joe Strummer, Courtney Love, Shane McGowan, Elvis Costello and Dennis Hopper. sounds cool, is actually utter shit.
 
Episode 2 Carl Sagan's Cosmos. Very good, depsite some of it going over my head. I think I'll need to watch it again.
 
Shaolin Soccer...ridiculous and very funny. My little un had a mate round for tea while we were watching it. I got the idea he'd never seen anything so daft.
 
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