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What DVD / Video did you watch last night? (pt3)

Victoria - A cracking Berlin tale of loneliness, camaraderie, friendship, love and tragedy. The whole film is shot in just one take... over two hours long.
 
Creed

Thought it was great, both Michael B. Jordan and Stallone are excellent and the direction is superb (the 2nd fight especially, shot as one take, is a stunning sequence).

Ryan Coogler is definitely one to watch.

Genuine emotion at several points, bit of a duff antagonist but he's a real boxer rather than actor and the film's not really about the rivalry anyway.

Can't believe that's Wallace from The Wire either.
 
Victoria - A cracking Berlin tale of loneliness, camaraderie, friendship, love and tragedy. The whole film is shot in just one take... over two hours long.

I just watched this and thought it was too meandering and apart from the single take gimmick and an impressive performance by the lead actress, it doesn't have much going for it. Due to the logistics of the single take conceit and all the improvisation going on, every scene goes on three times longer than it needs to. It feels the desire to make a film in one single shot came first and the rest was written down on a napkin. I get that Victoria is lonely, has experienced disappointment and is yearning for an adventure, but her choices didn't make much sense to me. Her characterisation is in the service of facilitating all the one take action and it's to the credit of the actress that she salvages a compelling performance from that.
 
Serie Noire - a Quebecois comedy about two screenwriters who have written a TV show that is universally panned. The show gets re-commissioned and the writers try to get authentic in their writing. It's very good.
 
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The last four episodes of Mad Men. It should have ended with Draper holed up in the Watergate hotel, surrounded by bottles of his own urine and faeces. Alas, this was not to be.

I actually remember this advert, which they played before the end credits:



The fact that they chose to go out on this note indicates to me that the whole series was a not a critique of the American air-conditioned nightmare, but rather a nostalgic celebration of same.
 
The fact that they chose to go out on this note indicates to me that the whole series was a not a critique of the American air-conditioned nightmare, but rather a nostalgic celebration of same.
Weiner said that that was his favourite ad ever. He really likes advertising.
 
The last four episodes of Mad Men. It should have ended with Draper holed up in the Watergate hotel, surrounded by bottles of his own urine and faeces. Alas, this was not to be.

I actually remember this advert, which they played before the end credits:



The fact that they chose to go out on this note indicates to me that the whole series was a not a critique of the American air-conditioned nightmare, but rather a nostalgic celebration of same.


I think your nihilistic ending would have been trite and obvious. people always equal bleak/nihilistic with meaningful, but I think a bleak ending can be just as much of a cliche as a happy one.

I also don't think you can sum up an entire series to it's last moment. This is where it arrived, it is not what it was about. There is some considerable irony in that Draper channels the supposed spiritual hippie enlightenment he's just experienced into the most capitalist endeavor imaginable. It was a work place drama and it makes sense that it ends with a piece of work, in this case one of the most iconic commercial the advertising industry has produced.
 
I think your nihilistic ending would have been trite and obvious. people always equal bleak/nihilistic with meaningful, but I think a bleak ending can be just as much of a cliche as a happy one.

I also don't think you can sum up an entire series to it's last moment. This is where it arrived, it is not what it was about. There is some considerable irony in that Draper channels the supposed spiritual hippie enlightenment he's just experienced into the most capitalist endeavor imaginable. It was a work place drama and it makes sense that it ends with a piece of work, in this case one of the most iconic commercial the advertising industry has produced.
I didn't get that he was supposed to have been inspired to produce the coke ad by his dabbling in hippydom, so point to you.
 
really? The ad is an almost direct copy of DD's final scene!

Like I said, I can remember the ad from the first time around (I can also remember the opening credits of MASH, a Saturn V launch (which I think must have been for the Soyuz/Apollo launch, and Archie Bunker slamming the front door in his daughter's boyfriend's face), so that wasn't the immediate connection I made.
 
I'm watching The Wire at the moment but I'm struggling to get into it.
Persevere. Put subtitles on. It's hard to understand some of the characters sometimes. Once it's clicked you'll be in pure tv heaven. It took me 2 attempts to get into it. Need to rewatch as it goes.
 
Like I said, I can remember the ad from the first time around (I can also remember the opening credits of MASH, a Saturn V launch (which I think must have been for the Soyuz/Apollo launch, and Archie Bunker slamming the front door in his daughter's boyfriend's face), so that wasn't the immediate connection I made.

I'm old enough to remember the commercial on the telly, but here its in context to everything Don Draper goes through in the last couple of episodes. It's not like the ad was just chosen at random.
 
I'm old enough to remember the commercial on the telly, but here its in context to everything Don Draper goes through in the last couple of episodes. It's not like the ad was just chosen at random.
Everything he goes through is a symbol of AmeriKKKa, which is what I thought the Coke ad was intended as. Also the whole arc of the last few episodes was Draper shedding his old life, like
when he gives the car away to that kid
, so I didn't immediately infer that he was going to go back to his old life.
 
Oh, and even if I did miss the immediate point about the significance of the Coke ad, the wider point still stands. It was a big reveal of what that show was really about, and it wasn't about "behold advertising and Amerikkka, as rotten as their prince of lies Don Draper".
 
Everything he goes through is a symbol of AmeriKKKa, which is what I thought the Coke ad was intended as. Also the whole arc of the last few episodes was Draper shedding his old life, like
when he gives the car away to that kid
, so I didn't immediately infer that he was going to go back to his old life.

It doesn't mean that he hasn't absorbed the hippie spirituality into his own life, but it also has also made him better at his job and that is what has revived his career. There is irony and ambiguity at play, not a heavy handed message. I didn't see everything in this series just as a "symbol for AmerriKKKa". I think the series was a little more shaded than that.
 
It doesn't mean that he hasn't absorbed the hippie spirituality into his own life, but it also has also made him better at his job and that is what has revived his career. There is irony and ambiguity at play, not a heavy handed message. I didn't see everything in this series just as a "symbol for AmerriKKKa". I think the series was a little more shaded than that.
I don't think it was that shaded, because A) it was a glorified soap opera, and B) nostalgia was always fighting critique, and in the end nostalgia won. This from the Grauniad makes sense to me though:

"The idea that he returns to advertising and makes the Coke ad is missing the point of Don's journey. He is done with advertising, and done with being Don. The whole of the final series was Don's symbolic death and rebirth — his life passes before him, he meets himself as a young man, a daughter figure, his old army comrades, etc. Don's life has been ruined by his appetites (which is why he's such a good ad man and such a terrible human being) and he can only redeem himself by giving them up, as he does at the retreat. His selfless act of compassion for a stranger (Leonard) is the turning point. He can finally give up his burdens and go to heaven — as Dick Whitman. (Side point: it's not just Pete who goes to heaven too, as Sam points out, but all the other cast in their different ways. The Sixties are literally dead and 'Person To Person' is the Rapture).

The Coke ad symbolizes not a trite "I'm back, baby!" moment but the foreshadowing that the advertising world will eventually colonise Dick's new nirvana too. There is no escape from the machine he helped build. The little smile? Dick thinks he's happy at last. We don't want to be around when he finds out he's wrong."

Mad Men review – ‘no deaths or crashes, but an apt and cool conclusion’
 
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Well, that's The Guardian for you.

(Can't be bothered to read it all as I'm working on a commercial. No, I really am...)
 
Well, that's The Guardian for you.

(Can't be bothered to read it all as I'm working on a commercial. No, I really am...)
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Moonwalkers - somewhat damaged CIA agent and a bunch of swinging sixties London fuckwits attempt to produce fake moon landing film for NASA. surprise acid and bloodbaths ensue. lots of fun.
 
Parallels (2015). About halfway through I started thinking the plot sounded familiar. I eventually realised it was from this thread. Agree with whoever it was that said it would work better as a TV series. Annoying twunts all of them, but was interesting enough.
 
Ex Machina - loved it.
Kind of a feel good film really. Let out a little cheer at the end when she got to fulfil her dream. Love how we start off thinking Caleb's the hero but it's Eva all along.
 
I'm about halfway through Cartel Land; good documentary about armed resistance to drug cartels both sides of the Mexico/US border. Raises more questions than it answers, like a lot of good docs - the nature/legitimacy of people taking the law into their own hands / vigilantism being the main one. Will watch the rest tonight. It's on Netflix who really have had some cracking documentaries recently.
 
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