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What DVD / Video did you watch last night? (pt3)

Switchblade Romance, gory French horror which was rather good.
F, British horror set in a school after hours which wasnt as good but was ok.
 
Reno said:
You hated it. There !

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After digesting it a bit more I think it was alright. Reminded me of a poorer American Beauty (which I'm sure everyone on here would hate anyway). The son's storyline was better than Mel Gibson's.
 
andy2002 said:
I've been thinking about it ever since and all the clever little hints and clues that were contained in the story. Still not sure it entirely adds up though.
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I think it would take a second viewing to pick up on all that. I was slightly prepared though as there was a commentary about the film prior to it being shown (on the horror channel where i recorded it) & the talking heads mentioned about its big twist, thankfully without going into any detail. But yeah, theres one bit in particular that didnt add up.
 
starfish said:
I think it would take a second viewing to pick up on all that. I was slightly prepared though as there was a commentary about the film prior to it being shown (on the horror channel where i recorded it) & the talking heads mentioned about its big twist, thankfully without going into any detail. But yeah, theres one bit in particular that didnt add up.
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I saw the commentary beforehand but had decided the twist was going to be something completely different.
 
Shifty. It was alright, crack dealers tale of a day going badly. Keep me watching & wondering how it was going to end.
 
Love Like Poison - excellent French film about the adolescence of a girl and the nature of religion. The lead actress is fantastic as is the old grandfather. Lots of interesting ideas and themes packed into the 90 minutes but all developed properly. Very impressed.
 
starfish said:
I think it would take a second viewing to pick up on all that. I was slightly prepared though as there was a commentary about the film prior to it being shown (on the horror channel where i recorded it) & the talking heads mentioned about its big twist, thankfully without going into any detail. But yeah, theres one bit in particular that didnt add up.
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Nothing adds up, it's patently clear that the twist ending is a cheat from beginning to end because the character would have to be in two places at once much of the time. It's quite homophobic too.
 
Reno said:
Nothing adds up, it's patently clear that the twist ending is a cheat from beginning to end because the character would have to be in two places at once much of the time. It's quite homophobic too.
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I thought the twist was both a bit of a cheat but also quite clever because it is clearly seeded throughout the film from the very beginning. That said, just how much dramatic licence should we extend to the 'being in two places at once' idea? Clearly, half of what the viewer is seeing is a delusion on her part but I'm not sure that entirely excuses or explains it. The twist still delivers a pretty big gut punch though, mainly because the actress carries it off so well.
 
I was with the film till the twist, which didn't deliver a gut punch for me, but a monumental rolling of the eyes. I completely bailed at that point. Not only is it an old hat of a twist that had been done many times before, but it's also just done so shoddily here and used as a get out clause for the film having to make any sense.

And don't even get me started about the sexual politics....:mad:
 
Two nights ago I watched Submarine with my 15yr old.

It is quite possibly the most self-knowingly hip indie flick ever made in the uk.......and actually quite boring.

I was a little disturbed because it was about a 15 year old boy in 1986 who's into films and books and pyromania, who's a bit odd, likes girls (in that romantic odd way that boys who are 15 and into films and books and pyromania do).

But it was so fucking uber-cool and so fucking focussed on the detail of hip it lost all the story and all the heart of being that kid.

I was 15 in 1986, was into books and films and Pyromania (but also deeply into music) and life was never that cool and hip and I never ever got away with burning stuff in such a simple way.

Anyway, this kid had posters of L'Samourai and Le Cercle Rouge on his wall.......where the fuck did you buy those in 1986? He lived in wales ffs?

I watched L'Samourai in 86 and knew no one else in my universe (being 15 and all that) who even knew what the film was.......let alone where get a copy of it or a poster of it....I didn't even know who Alain Delon was even after I'd watched it......I just remember thinking....shit, bbc2 showed an ace film last nice.....didn't understand it, but it was fandabbydozee....

I was lonely and stupid and a weirdo! It's what geeky kids are.

Can films not show this without it coming across like Belle and Sebastian the Musical?
 
Nanker Phelge said:
Anyway, this kid had posters of L'Samourai and Le Cercle Rouge on his wall.......where the fuck did you buy those in 1986? He lived in wales ffs?
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I had posters for A bout de souffle and Andy Warhol's Flesh on my wall when I was 15 in the 70s. I got them via an advert in a film magazine. There was life before eBay.
 
Reno said:
I had posters for A bout de souffle and Andy Warhol's Flesh on my wall when I was 15 in the 70s. I got them via an advert in a film magazine. There was life before eBay.
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Ebay comment unnecessary! Grow up.

I know this stuff was out there....I know this stuff was available.....this kid in this story with this life didn't seem to have the means as I didn't have the means when I was that age in a simlar world in a similar situation.

I remember going to London and finding a shop full of film posters and thinking....one day, I want those. I was still getting £1.50 pocket money in 1986. (I was from a big family and worked for the family so had no option for working for more for someone else.)

My point is the film showed none of the aspiration and yearning that discovering art and pop culture and literature and music inspires when you're young and alone and finding things outside of you peer's world.

This boy was simply 15, uncool, but had all the cool books and pictures and quotes ready and to hand and there.

I'm sure a part of me believes that at 15 I was super duper and jazzy fuckin' hip shit, but I know I was still stumblin' along. I read what film mags I could get my hands on, and spent ages in the library looking at books they wouldn't let me hire, and I thought Patti Smith was 'A genius' and Iggy Pop 'sexy' and yes, I got my Nan to buy me the Andy Warhol Diaries, and I got Miles Davies 'Sketches of Spain' and thought Quentin Crisp was someone I should design my attitude to life upon and that this fella that Barfly was based on seemed like a good role model and that Broadway Danny Rose and Bananas were both very funny, but Hannah and Her Sister was probably smarter and the one I should like it more........and if it wasn't for Alex Coc i'd be just like everybody else.......

.....thing is, at the time, in the moment.....not a lot of it made sense.

I was 15 on a housing estate next to an industrial estate and I'd just been told I wasn't allowed to do any O levels cos I was a trouble maker.....so in my mind I was thick and I didn't deserve anything. My old man kicking me up an ddown the stairs didn't help Setting fire to things didn't really help either, but it felt good, although it was stupid and dangerous and I did cause some terrible messes.

Cinema continues to depict these kids as 'super cool' despite their loser status and they always get the girl in the 'sexy' anorak, who's a bit sharp tongued, but soft on the inside.

Anyway, fuck you and your short sharp ebay throwaway.......lucky you and your 70s poster, hip shit!
 
The boy in Submarine wasn't depicted as "super cool". The point was that he thought he was super cool, but he was emotionally immature and really a bit of a twat. Where it counted, like being there for his girlfriend when she needed him, he was a total loser. He was at the age where kids think that the things they like is what makes them the person they are. He constantly tried to show off to the girl about all the cool stuff he knew and was into, which of course is not cool at all. Sure, the film wasn't naturalistic, it was very stylised and an exagerrated and comedic depiction of that state of mind, but otherwise I thought it was quite accurate about how fairly intelligent kids are at that age. They think they are much smarter than they are, because they like "cool stuff".
 
I know that's what it wanted to do. It didn't do it.

These films are made by the losers kids. They want themselves to appear cooler than they actually are.

It was life as Belle and Sebastian write about it.....

...I think it was too exagerrated....and just about comic enough.....

...it was actually a bit obvious and dull...but with lots attention to detail...

....Actually, while watching it, and having Noah Taylor to hand, I thought a lot about The Year My Voice Broke and what a much better film that was....

I'm glad you liked it.
 
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