What DVD / Video did you watch last night? (pt2)
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May Kasahara
take me to the feeling
Yeah, P said at the end that he really enjoyed it but didn't understand about 80% of what was said. I found it okay actually, I knew to expect a load of Raymond Chandler type slang so it was not a problem. And the bits I didn't get, I just used to stare at Joseph Gordon-Levitt
The Groke
hot hail/Paging Dr. Beat
It's great, but yes - the dialogue is very dense, slang-ridden and frequently delivered at high speed.......
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
Hotel Rwanda
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I don't see how that makes it great - if it's impossible to fathom out what's going on, it's doing a poor job of entertaining me. I'd rather listen to Stanley Unwin.
May Kasahara
take me to the feeling
But it's not impossible, you just have to listen closely and know a bit about hardboiled detective fiction. It's no more difficult than The Wire IMO.
Orang Utan
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I find The Wire dead easy though. Brick just stumped me. I didn't care what was gonna happen either as the characters weren't immediately engaging.
May Kasahara
take me to the feeling
Well, yeah, I find The Wire easy too. *feels smug* But there are plenty of people who've struggled with it. Even you yourself advised me to listen closely when I started watching it!
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Re: The Wire - it's great watching it again as you notice a lot of details that passed you by the first time. One thing we noticed was Peters' weird walk and the way he holds his arms when he does it. He also stands like he's posing as an underwear model. The actor (Lance Reddick) is just like that in Oz too. My friend said he reminded her of this fella:
foo
dirtysweet
Orang Utan
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
does it? i didn't feel particularly happy when it ended.
if i could, i'd choose to believe in a romantic (deluded?) idea of human relationships over that bleak and grubby tale.
It ends in a small personal triumph that means a hell of a lot to the person concerned - that's a happy ending isn't it?
foo
dirtysweet
erm...who's personal triumph?
(starts wondering if we're talking about the same film....)
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
foo
dirtysweet
oh i see.
'i came' <big grin>
gotcha. yes, that was a good ending.
the portrayal of his father, and his crimes was excellently dealt with i thought. really really sensitive. you couldn't quite hate the man could you. very clever. usually i'd be screaming abuse at the tv....
the film still left me feeling like crap though, so i played soppy music - and watched a bit of Chocolat to difuse my bleak mood.
'i came' <big grin>
gotcha. yes, that was a good ending.
the portrayal of his father, and his crimes was excellently dealt with i thought. really really sensitive. you couldn't quite hate the man could you. very clever. usually i'd be screaming abuse at the tv....
the film still left me feeling like crap though, so i played soppy music - and watched a bit of Chocolat to difuse my bleak mood.
Yeah, although that's just one of the various storylines in the film, it's certainly the most difficult to watch.
As you say though, it's so well done. It reflects what (-AFAIK) many stats suggest: that it's not usually all about 'stranger danger', but often it's somebody who's trusted, etc. That, and that the film paints him not simply as some one-dimensional monster, but as a respectable family man, and as somebody with a range of conflicting human emotions, etc. All of this combines to offer an obviously unpalatable view; it's definitely not an easy film. Todd Solondz refused to make cuts to it, which effectively killed it's wider cinema distribution: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness_%281998_film%29#Controversy
I think all the other storylines are just as well done though. That opening scene of rejection in the restaurant just smacks you in the face and sets the tone for the entire film. Overall, this film is bleak as hell, but I can't help finding some of it very funny too. (-Which, I suppose, kind of fits my oh-so-joyous view of life's absurdity...
)So, yeah, it's grim. But as OU says, it does have a happy ending. Kind of.
Orang Utan
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I 'like' how the son is jealous cos his dad abused another kid and not him. It reminds me of when a friend found out a well liked school master at his school went down for abusing lots of his pupils. He'd never laid a finger on him, and he felt a little bit rejected and unloveable cos of it
foo
dirtysweet
I 'like' how the son is jealous cos his dad abused another kid and not him. It reminds me of when a friend found out a well liked school master at his school went down for abusing lots of his pupils. He'd never laid a finger on him, and he felt a little bit rejected and unloveable cos of it
yes, that was clever. all in all, the whole film was fucking clever really. it's certainly stayed with me all day....meandering clumsily around my head..
cliche guevara
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Watched Blood Diamond, the night before last. Was quite a good watch, but something about it left me feeling quite hollow, perhaps the lack of development of Solomon. Was suprised to find it got 8/10 on IMDB!
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