what does emily benn tell us about the state of politics

[Fullyplumped]

Do you or don't you believe that the quality of parliamentary politics has been adversely affected by so many entrants into political life having not actually "lived in the real world" at all?

Well, there has always been some MPs with that background and it is bad if there's too many of them so I basically agree with you. But that is not a good argument against a few able schoolkids getting selected as PPCs, is it?

I doubt if Jo Swinson had much life experience before first getting selected at age 21 and getting elected at her third attempt at age 25, but she's not been a total disaster.

And I know that people like Jim Murphy fit your archetype of the NUS and party hack, but in fact he has real personal experience of "the real world" and he's a better MP and minister for it.

There are some young people with a passion for politics, and a few of them deserve a chance. I mean, look at how well that nice William Hague turned out!

 

[Bakunin]

I think you'll fnd that the vast majority of Labour MPs, AMs, MSPs, MEPs, councillors and candidates don't fit that profile either.

I was referring to politico's in general.

Or do the Labour ones just prefer to embark on illegal invasions and criminal wars, based on lies in dodgy dossiers, these days?

 

[Fullyplumped]

I was referring to politico's in general. Or do the Labour ones just prefer to embark on illegal invasions and criminal wars, based on lies in dodgy dossiers, these days?

Labour politicians are fundamentally interested in protecting the interests of hard working families and protecting our hard-won freedoms from the forces of extremism in a changing world.

 

[butchersapron]

You ae truly sickening.

 

[Bakunin]

Labour politicians are fundamentally interested in protecting the interests of hard working families and protecting our hard-won freedoms from the forces of extremism in a changing world.

You do realise you sound like a political version of the 'speak your weight' machine when you post like that, don't you?

I want what you think, not what some spin doctor has surgically implanted into your brain.

 

[Fullyplumped]

You do realise you sound like a political version of the 'speak your weight' machine when you post like that, don't you? I want what you think, not what some spin doctor has surgically implanted into your brain.

You must be an American, or a German. Am I supposed to resort to the use of smileys to flag up the use of humour?

 

[Bakunin]

You must be an American, or a German. Am I supposed to resort to the use of smileys to flag up the use of humour?

Most people do use smileys when jesting, yes.

And my ancestry is Cornish/Irish since you mentioned it.

 

[Fullyplumped]

Most people do use smileys when jesting, yes. And my ancestry is Cornish/Irish since you mentioned it.

I am sorry!

 

[exosculate]

18! Ffs!

 

[DownwardDog]

Hoggart was unkind about poor Emily in the Guardian...

Jacqui Smith got the best reaction, which is saying very little. Emily Benn, 18-year-old granddaughter of Tony Benn, announced that it was a "fantastic honour to be anywhere near her!" How unlike her grandfather, who used to knife cabinet colleagues, in front and back. She was rewarded with a home secretarial hug.

 

[Fullyplumped]

Hoggart was unkind about poor Emily in the Guardian...

She got a hug - how's that unkind?

 

[Dan U]

fuck who she is, anyone who votes for an 18 year old as their MP needs their head examining.

 

[DownwardDog]

She got a hug - how's that unkind?

It was a hug from Jacqui Smith. The smell of kebabs, HRT patches and fear of unemployment must have been overpowering.

 

[mk12]

In what sense

It was a relatively left wing manifesto, compared to other efforts.

 

[butchersapron]

Does that matter?

 

[Dr Jon]

Tony Benn on the democracy: "Would you be happy to fly in an aeroplane if you were told the pilot had been selected on the grounds his father had been a pilot too?"

As has been said: 18! FFS!

 

[nightbreed]

Fair play to her for standing. At 18 shes bloody brave to do it.

Here is a bet. Does anyone think she would get more votes in the southeast than the CNWP, Respect and the red green alliance would altogether? Worth a punt dont you think?

Her only down side is that she is a Spurs fan!!

 

[butchersapron]

The process of getting chosen as a labour candiate is what some people are commenting on, and what that says. Not you though. Oh no, you simply ignored that.

A million votes for neo-liberal new labour scum in the SE is a good result for you is it?

 

[brasicritique]

i agree, but she has as much right to try and be an mp, as you or I, or even brasicritique, although i think he might be related to lord palmerston, so maybe shouldn't be allowed to run

and your iwca ? what wall have you got your portrait of the queen hanging on!

i think yourve got a bundle of contradictions to go and untangle my boy

btw if your going to go down the old brasic is a toff then can you at least try to beat hipolis or wtf there called semi humerous attempt as at the mo your coming across as a bit of lemon maybe vp is looking for an aprentice

if your iwca then the wc are well and truely fucked

 

[brasicritique]

Says something about the place of personality in modern politics too, unfortunately.

agreed this is what gets up my nose the most this whole cult of personality ! i mean wtfman persoanlity what fucking personality! the beast of bolsover has got personality even tebbit had has an air of evil type personality but the likes of benn and all the other straight out of uni into politics brigade dont even have the persoanlity of one of john majors marks n sparks specials !

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

I dont care who her grand dad is or if she has a way with words and dedication to her own career.

She is a member of a corrupt right wing organisation that cant stop lying and that wants to fingerprint us and eyescan us for a disgusting database.

Scum.

 

[shagnasty]

She doesn,t seem to be in the position to understand the needs of the people her experience is not that great.but it does show how desperate nu labour has become .it could be seen as the teenage soilder hitler had when in the bunker

 

[brasicritique]

I think that only every other generation should be allowed to enter politics tho that is due to the way i view insititutions as some sort of a social organism which self replicate in the institutions interest. ( yes needs newthread an massive essay but cant be fucked ) IMO this is one of the reasons the left real practisng liberals and even the greens and anarchists are so disconnected - they do not have physical institutions from which to grow in either local communities or in wider society

 

[exosculate]

They only move to a set of left sounding waffle when they are post ministerial.

Tony Wedgey B was pretty right wing when in office, everyone forgets that.

 

[butchersapron]

Except of course all those people who relentlessly point that out whenever he's mentioned on here. Another bullseye exo!

 

[exosculate]

She doesn,t seem to be in the position to understand the needs of the people her experience is not that great.but it does show how desperate nu labour has become .it could be seen as the teenage soilder hitler had when in the bunker

On election day - Brown will be pinning a Purple Prudence Heart on her outside no 10. As everything collapses around him.

What beautiful imagery.

 

[butchersapron]

You have so totally lost it.

 

[exosculate]

Except of course all those people who relentlessly point that out whenever he's mentioned on here. Another bullseye exo!

On here is irrelevant, I'm talking about the world outside your window man.

 

[exosculate]

You have so totally lost it.

Lost what?

 

[butchersapron]

On here is irrelevant, I'm talking about the world outside your window man.

None of them are talking about Tony Benn, never mind looking at his 70s record. Have another go.