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You called him a talentless fuck. That was poorer.that's really poor.
You called him a talentless fuck. That was poorer.that's really poor.
it was a joke!You called him a talentless fuck. That was poorer.
There isn't. My point was rather that literature needn't be two-dimensional, page-only.there should be a music one if there isn't already
Yeah but that's irrelevant to the question Andysays was raising.they wrote books. not ditties
This is so go good. His parody on Mcarthyism. Just needs to be very slightly rewrote for now.
I was late in comprehending the stature of Dylan, and some of you still think of him as your dad’s kind of thing, or your grandfather’s. This is an error. If you have any sense that there is a corpus of rock music that will endure permanently, and that is worthy of continued contemplation and assessment in the same way that Italian opera and the German symphony and Elizabethan theatre are, you ought to understand that Dylan is probably the individual most responsible for this. This is true whether or not you fancy his records: maybe Mozart’s not your cup of tea either.
For sure demanding on the attention span, but no doubt about it, a genius.i don't know how it's possible to listen to more than 9 seconds of that
A nicer person, and a better man!Leonard Cohen is a superior lyricist and songwriter. More consistent and disciplined, and a nicer person too.
A nicer person, and a better man!
and?Cohen - like Burroughs - was born with a silver spoon.
Dylan - like Kerouac - wasn't.
Cohen - like Burroughs - was born with a silver spoon.
Dylan - like Kerouac - wasn't.
I love Leonard Cohen but no way is he a better lyricist.
there is only one way to listen to Dylan. buy each album from the start to the finish. if you jump in at a random stage, or just stick to best of, he will disappoint.
from the amateurish first album onward, you suddenly will realise what the hype has been about.
I love Leonard Cohen but no way is he a better lyricist.
I'm listening to Self-Portrait now, for the first time ever, and it's a lot better than I expected. It's definitely very different from what made him famous, but it's still Dylan.I set off on this endeavour yesterday, just finished Nashville Skyline. I'm hesitating to move on to Self Portrait because I've heard it's pretty crap, but I do have a new appreciation for him - those 9 albums between 62 and 69 are all great, an impressive achievement. BUT, there's 28 more albums to go, the majority of which aren't so great... still, I'm going to slog on...
IFor sure demanding on the attention span, but no doubt about it, a genius.
The first paragraph says better what I was trying to say above.Lyrics and poetry are similar but different things really. What makes lyrics good is not the same as what makes poetry good - with lyrics its about how they work with the music and how the singer delivers them - especially the emotional hit of the refrain/chorus. The lyrics to - say - You Really Got Me or Stop! In the name of love make pretty banal poetry but work great as lyrics. Dylans lyrics are poetic - but that doesn't make them poetry.
Having said that I dont see a problem with him getting the award - its about literature in the broadest sense - the creative use of words - wordsmithery if you will. Dylan's songs had a huge impact on popular culture, ushering in a new, expansive, confident and confrontational vernacular within popular song that was quintessentially of the moment.
I think he's a bit of a shit as a person and fuck knows why he still plays live as he's been utterly shit live for over 30 years - coming across exactly like someone who really really cant be arsed to make any sort of effort.
And you'd think he would have learnt to play the harmonica by now as well (people call his harp playing "idiosyncratic" - which is ancient greek for "sucking and blowing the thing like a fucking three year old whose just got one for christmas")
but still - like him or not - he made an indelible mark on popular music - and his lyrics were at the core of that.
Christ Idris it is shit, just terrible. What is worth listening to is Another Self Portrait: Bootleg Series Vol. 10, which is a bunch on unreleased stuff he recorded around that same time which is just great. I actually buy the theory that he purposely released something shit, nobody could pick the Self Portrait shit over the unreleased work.I'm listening to Self-Portrait now, for the first time ever, and it's a lot better than I expected. It's definitely very different from what made him famous, but it's still Dylan.
Ta, much like the last couple of studio albums then.I've listened to the first two cd's. And it is perfectly entertaining, a couple of nice versions on there. Doubt I'll play it much more often tho