Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
What's it about?Might I suggest that you watch the series, DARK?
(NOT the dubbed version)
What's it about?Might I suggest that you watch the series, DARK?
(NOT the dubbed version)
26 episodes I’d say.What's it about?
some sad people in a forest. it’s pretty dark.What's it about?
What's it about?
So you have seen it?I think I've just inadvertently stumbled upon an alternate universe.
Houdini promised people he'd come back if he could.
Must have gotten tied up...
"Excessive freedom"? Do you really think this describes the human situation?It was Kierkegaard - a Christian - who averred that excessive freedom leads to despair. It's something he and I agree on.
What is "the human situation"?"Excessive freedom"? Do you really think this describes the human situation?
What is "the human situation"?
I don't know what happens after death I know that I will find out in due course but I hope not to find out too soon.
I had a joke with my dad that if it was possible to come back after death that he would come back and tell me so. No news yet so I guess it is impossible.
The situation in which we live.What is "the human situation"?
No, it's not as crude as that.The situation in which we live.
What does "excessive freedom" mean in a practical sense? Should our freedom be curtailed in some way?
So we can make choices and this makes us anxious. I don't see the "excess" here. Most choices for most people are severely curtailed by circumstances.What Kierkegaard was talking about was our own anxiety around the freedom to choose - for example, we can stand on the edge of a cliff, where we might have the freedom to throw ourselves off, or not. His argument was that, when we have the freedom to do something, it comes with the anxiety (he used the word "dread") of such a responsibility; on the flip side, that anxiety also tells us that we have that freedom, and he argued that we should cherish the fact that we even have that choice, and use it to move us from a place of simply doing things because we can, and instead become aware of the power of our freedom to choose.
I don't suppose you do see it. Which is why I think I am probably wasting my time.So we can make choices and this makes us anxious. I don't see the "excess" here. Most choices for most people are severely curtailed by circumstances.
I agree, you are wasting your time.I don't suppose you do see it. Which is why I think I am probably wasting my time.
If you really want to know then ...I agree, you are wasting your time.
I agree, you are wasting your time.
I think his point was that the anxiety is inevitable (see also "existential angst"), but that the way to manage this is to bring our choices and free will into conscious awareness. Even in more restrictive cultures, there is always the choice to conform or not on an individual basis, after all.If I get kierkegaard's point, I can imagine there will be more anxiety with the subjective sense of free will and choice than more instinctual behaviour or earlier societies with more cohesive cultures and social roles.
I see, maybe mine is a different point then but always thought there was some mileage in it.I think his point was that the anxiety is inevitable (see also "existential angst"), but that the way to manage this is to bring our choices and free will into conscious awareness. Even in more restrictive cultures, there is always the choice to conform or not on an individual basis, after all.
I think it's going to affect the locus and depth of the anxiety, and probably shift it to different groups within the society, but I regard the idea of Kierkegaardian despair as a given - indeed, Irvin Yalom regards freedom, and its associated despair, as one of the four existential givens (the others being, appositely to this thread, death, meaninglessness, and isolation).I see, maybe mine is a different point then but always thought there was some mileage in it.
We are Borg.We are stardust
Billion year old carbon
We are golden
Caught in the devil's bargain
The entry you link to is a series of abstract (and hardly uncontentious) assertions about free will.If you really want to know then ...
Bjorn again?We are Borg.