Watchmen, Snatch or Surrogates - which should I watch tonight?
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Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Steer well clear of Surrogates - utter shite.
Watchmen is fun, but long, and might be a bit confusing if you don't know the book.
Snatch is good fun if you can suspend belief at all the shite accents, loony plot and geezer cliches.
Watchmen is fun, but long, and might be a bit confusing if you don't know the book.
Snatch is good fun if you can suspend belief at all the shite accents, loony plot and geezer cliches.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
It's not awful, and I have read the comics, too. I think it requires more than half eleven concentration though.
The Groke
hot hail/Paging Dr. Beat
I am a big fan of the original comic and I quite like the film.
Pretty good effort really.
I can confirm that it's functional for 11.05->2.05 concentration, whilst writing an advisory paper. Perhaps only whilst sober, mind.
tbh, I'm not sure you need to pick up anything much before a certain thing happens about an hour in, but I can't now remember what that thing is.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Watchmen proves that the old adage that a film version of the comic could never be made.
It follows the comic quite faithfully in most places but just doesn't work. It's boring, it doesn't flow and is too long. Even though it's overlong it still misses the important giant squid reveal that makes some of the other scenes and story lines fall flat. The 'spectacular climax' is just flat, dull and uninteresting.
A 12 part TV series? Maybe, but because the comic has been out there since the 80s it just wouldn't hold peoples interest week after week as the story unfolded.
The casting was pretty good apart from Dr Manhattan's voice, man that was annoying.
It follows the comic quite faithfully in most places but just doesn't work. It's boring, it doesn't flow and is too long. Even though it's overlong it still misses the important giant squid reveal that makes some of the other scenes and story lines fall flat. The 'spectacular climax' is just flat, dull and uninteresting.
A 12 part TV series? Maybe, but because the comic has been out there since the 80s it just wouldn't hold peoples interest week after week as the story unfolded.
The casting was pretty good apart from Dr Manhattan's voice, man that was annoying.
The Octagon
Stop...Hammertime
Losing the squid was probably the smartest thing the film makers did. It's ridiculous even in the comic and the film's use of Dr Manhatten as the ultimate nuclear deterrent works much better.
The film doesn't really bear up to repeated viewings though, watched some of it last night and it felt much more forced and 'cool' than I remember, which kind of misses the point of the comic.
Veidt is completely miscast, otherwise the actors do a decent job.
Opening credits are great though.
The film doesn't really bear up to repeated viewings though, watched some of it last night and it felt much more forced and 'cool' than I remember, which kind of misses the point of the comic.
Veidt is completely miscast, otherwise the actors do a decent job.
Opening credits are great though.
Reno
The In Kraut
Too late now, but:
Watchmen is not only a bad film, but also a bad-wig-horror-show. Zach Snyder is absolutely clueless as how to pace a film and everything unfolds at the same unvarying tempo. He produces striking individual shots which he doesn't know how to edit into a compelling sequence. The sex scene, set to one of the most overused songs ever, is one of the most unintentionally funny in recent cinema.
Guy Ritchie is never a good idea.
Surrogates has a decent film trying to get out. It's a very short film and appears to have been chopped down to concentrate on action, removing most of the character stuff. There are some good ideas in there and it has one great action scene, but it feels like the mere skeleton of a film, with all the meat stripped from it (a rare non-action scene with Rosamund Pike as Willis' wife hints at what could have been). Maybe they should have gotten Joseph Gordon-Leavitt to play the Willis surrogate, as the digitally altered Willis looks not so much youthful, as distractingly weird.
Watchmen is not only a bad film, but also a bad-wig-horror-show. Zach Snyder is absolutely clueless as how to pace a film and everything unfolds at the same unvarying tempo. He produces striking individual shots which he doesn't know how to edit into a compelling sequence. The sex scene, set to one of the most overused songs ever, is one of the most unintentionally funny in recent cinema.
Guy Ritchie is never a good idea.
Surrogates has a decent film trying to get out. It's a very short film and appears to have been chopped down to concentrate on action, removing most of the character stuff. There are some good ideas in there and it has one great action scene, but it feels like the mere skeleton of a film, with all the meat stripped from it (a rare non-action scene with Rosamund Pike as Willis' wife hints at what could have been). Maybe they should have gotten Joseph Gordon-Leavitt to play the Willis surrogate, as the digitally altered Willis looks not so much youthful, as distractingly weird.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
the sex scene is one that I can (almost) defend. It is meant to be that bad, awkward and kinda rubbish.
Otherwise I quite agree tho
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