Was Martin Luther King a tory, a democratic socialist, communist...?
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Maybe that's where I fall down. I like to shovel it out in hot steaming piles.
Well that has its advantages. The problem with waiting is that people then assume that you're starting it. But it is immensely satisfying to see someone get their just desserts, just when they thought they'd gotten away with it.
Johnny Canuck3
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Exactly. Especially with reading skills being what they are today.
Yes, I knew you'd forgotten it, that's the type of insensitive twit you are. However I'm sure you'd remember such a thread had it been directed *against* you. And I'm not the sort who takes shorts, if you're familiar with that expression. But I think honor has been satisfied by now, and am willing to shake hands and start afresh. Let's see if you are capable of reciprocating.
Stobart Stopper
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None of them, he was a man who believed that people should be equal. A racial equalitist.
Communism is about everyone being equal in relation to property, wealth and land. All Luther King wanted was equality in race.
Lenin was about equality over the whole of society, land, title, wealth, he was a true comminist although Trotsky would have disagreed with his idea of Marxist Leninism.
Trotsky believed that Marrxism was pure theory and could not be adapted; Lenin adapted Karl Mark and that is where he fell out with Trotsky.
Animal Farm scenario of all people are equal but some are more equal than others.
So, Luther King only believed in equality of race under a democratic society, he was an American patriot, all he believed was that blacks should have equal right with whites, as such was not a communist at all.
Laney
Got Faith?
That isn't true, or he would have stopped campaigning in 1965. He wanted much more than racial equality, and that's why he was assassinated.
Gavin Bl
terrible awful baaad
a christian socialist I would say(developing towards it, at least), albeit a reformist socialist/social democrat. Support for israel wasn't unusual at the time, in terms of things like kibbutzs and so on. it existed alongside a degree of social conservatism - hardly unusual really - quite common in many 'blue collar' areas, and among christian socialists of the more old scool variety, like the chapels of S Wales.
alsoknownas
some bloke
Really? Was racial equality achieved in 1965?
Laney
Got Faith?
He had accomplished the de facto racial equality he had sought, enshrined in legislation. This was not enough, but it was all the regime was willing to give up... hence he continues, hence he dies...
Once you have racial equality as law, it becomes meaningless - suddenly you are forced to confront the social reality of the division between poor and rich, and this is not something the government can solve with the abstract committment to cessation of discrimination... it is a problem they will not solve.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Murder's illegal now.
Combustible
Well-Known Member
Not true.
"You can’t talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can’t talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You’re really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry… Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong…with capitalism… There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a Democratic Socialism. "
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
IIRC there's a good article in an old Radical America that argues that he was a communist.
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