Vinyl Is Poised to Outsell CDs For the First Time Since 1986

[editor]

there'd be plenty of capacity for pressing new stuff if the market wasn't 80% reissues mind

If there wasn't those '80% reissues' keeping pressing plants afloat there'd be even longer waits.

 

[editor]

Here's the top 20 vinyl sales:

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Middle aged music on a dead format.

 

[killer b]

If there wasn't those '80% reissues' keeping pressing plants afloat there'd be even longer waits.

I'm afraid you have this the wrong way round. If the independents hadn't kept the pressing plants afloat during the vinyl wilderness years, there would be no pressing plants left for the majors to repress their albums at all.

 

[editor]

I'm afraid you have this the wrong way round. If the independents hadn't kept the pressing plants afloat during the vinyl wilderness years, there would be no pressing plants left for the majors to repress their albums at all.

Whatever you say. You really do have a strange chip on your shoulder about vinyl production. It's almost like you have to keep sneering at anyone over a certain age group who choses to buy an album that isn't the latest thing.

 

[killer b]

Whatever you say. You really do have a strange chip on your shoulder about vinyl production. It's almost like you have to keep sneering at anyone over a certain age group who choses to buy an album that isn't the latest thing.

What are you talking about? I buy music on vinyl every month

 

[killer b]

I'm not sneering, but I think it's a bit weird the way you dismiss the problems the massive increase in major label reissues causes for small bands & labels. I know bands who've had to set off on tour to promote their new LP without copies of the LP to sell because of pressing plant delays, small labels who are facing significant cashflow problems right now because the pressing plant has bumped their order down the list and their latest release won't be ready till January. I'll raise these problems every time there's a conversation about the vinyl revival because they're still live problems which aren't going away. If that's a chip on my shoulder, so be it.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I don’t buy new vinyl any more but if that’s what people want to spend their money on that is ok I guess. I think people need to get over the idea that vinyl is the best and most authentic format for music though and recognise that it is a petrochemical product wrapped in a dead tree.

Similarly I don’t mind if people pay thousands of pounds for some workstation wheels made by Apple, which was the subject of a proper moralising thread on here recently.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

It's just nostalgia isn't it. I'm not knocking anyone for that because I'm as prone to it as the next person but these articles tend to have an underlying assumption that there's something obviously positive about vinyl beyond that, and tbh there's not much more to buying a copy of Rumours on vinyl than there is to buying a retro style teapot afaics.

 

[two sheds]

It's times like this I think I should sell my vinyl collection.

 

[editor]

I'm not sneering, but I think it's a bit weird the way you dismiss the problems the massive increase in major label reissues causes for small bands & labels. I know bands who've had to set off on tour to promote their new LP without copies of the LP to sell because of pressing plant delays, small labels who are facing significant cashflow problems right now because the pressing plant has bumped their order down the list and their latest release won't be ready till January. I'll raise these problems every time there's a conversation about the vinyl revival because they're still live problems which aren't going away. If that's a chip on my shoulder, so be it.

I'd be grateful if you could provide a quote from me where I, "dismiss the problems the massive increase in major label reissues causes for small bands & labels."

Because I never fucking said that. Ever.

 

[editor]

It's just nostalgia isn't it. I'm not knocking anyone for that because I'm as prone to it as the next person but these articles tend to have an underlying assumption that there's something obviously positive about vinyl beyond that, and tbh there's not much more to buying a copy of Rumours on vinyl than there is to buying a retro style teapot afaics.

It's not always nostalgia. Kids at gigs buy vinyl because it offers something more tangible than a few MBs of hard drive space with a song title. It comes with artwork. It's something to play, or stick n your wall, or read, or whatever, and it's something you can almost always sell later, if you want.

 

[killer b]

I'd be grateful if you could provide a quote from me where I, "dismiss the problems the massive increase in major label reissues causes for small bands & labels."

Because I never fucking said that. Ever.

here?

If there wasn't those '80% reissues' keeping pressing plants afloat there'd be even longer waits.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

If there wasn't those '80% reissues' keeping pressing plants afloat there'd be even longer waits.

You imply here that indie labels owe a debt to the old fart music clogging up that chart you posted.

 

[editor]

here?

That's a statement of what I believe to be a fact. Even with Olympic twisting it won't fit your narrative.,

 

[editor]

You imply here that indie labels owe a debt to the old fart music clogging up that chart you posted.

Nope. I just stated an opinion that the continuous demand for 'old fart music' has provided the volume sales to keep pressing plants profitable. I can't see how that's a remotely contentious thing to say.

 

[skyscraper101]

It's not always nostalgia. Kids at gigs buy vinyl because it offers something more tangible than a few MBs of hard drive space with a song title. It comes with artwork. It's something to play, or stick n your wall, or read, or whatever, and it's something you can almost always sell later, if you want.

You can skin up better on them too

 

[killer b]

lol. you're hilarious.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Nope. I just stated an opinion that the continuous demand for 'old fart music' has provided the volume sales to keep pressing plants profitable. I can't see how that's a remotely contentious thing to say.

But how did they survive before the recent boom in 30 quid represses of boomer music then?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I’m going go way out on a limb and say that relying on repackages of Rumours is not the sign of a vibrant music industry.

 

[editor]

I’m going go way out on a limb and say that relying on repackages of Rumours is not the sign of a vibrant music industry.

Good job no one was talking about a 'vibrant music industry. '

 

[editor]

But how did they survive before the recent boom in 30 quid represses of boomer music then?

Why don't you ask them? But there's been high end vinyl repressing (with all that heavyweight vinyl bollocks) going on for a very long time. Why do you think those high end turntable manufacturers haven't stopped introducing new models?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

It's not always nostalgia. Kids at gigs buy vinyl because it offers something more tangible than a few MBs of hard drive space with a song title.

Hard drive space? Get with the 21st century Grandad

 

[ska invita]

All formats are up according to that, cd sales up 300% since April

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Why don't you ask them? But there's been high end vinyl repressing (with all that heavyweight vinyl bollocks) going on for a very long time. Why do you think those high end turntable manufacturers haven't stopped introducing new models?

Well we were discussing your opinion, so I was interested in what that was grounded in. Clearly not much, so let’s move on.

 

[editor]

Hard drive space? Get with the 21st century Grandad

Don't kids have computers at home any more?

 

[editor]

Well we were discussing your opinion, so I was interested in what that was grounded in. Clearly not much, so let’s move on.

Why don't you answer my question? How come new turntables have continued to be released from what was supposed to be the 'end of vinyl'? You don't think those people buying those expensive items wouldn't be buying any new records? Pick a copy of What Hi-Fi/Record Collector or whatever from any time in the last thirty years and you'll see there was plenty of new vinyl being released.

 

[ska invita]

I don’t buy new vinyl any more but if that’s what people want to spend their money on that is ok I guess. I think people need to get over the idea that vinyl is the best and most authentic format for music though and recognise that it is a petrochemical product wrapped in a dead tree.

Agree

Similarly I don’t mind if people pay thousands of pounds for some workstation wheels made by Apple, which was the subject of a proper moralising thread on here recently.

I mind, I find it obscene when people have money to waste like that

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Don't kids have computers at home any more?

Not that they use for storing music on hard drives, not really, no. Everything is streamed. It’s only us old duffers who still have lovingly filed folders full of mp3’s.

 

[ska invita]

Not that they use for storing music on hard drives, not really, no. Everything is streamed. It’s only us old duffers who still have lovingly filed folders full of mp3’s.

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