teqniq
DisMembered
Well spotted, and Chulov usually writes reall well researched stuff too (at least imo). He does actually say 'foriegn minister' wtf is that about?
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It appears Emily Thornberry was receiving briefings from conspiracy nut and well paid chemical attack denier Peter Ford whilst shadow foreign secretary. At least that's what Eliot Higgins says episode 7 of this bbc Radio 4 podcast claims (i shall listen tonight). As well as Corbyn weighing in supporting beeeleyite positions on the while helmets. Great.
edit: yes, she confirmed it to the program makers.
edit: yes, she confirmed it to the program makers.
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
EP 4 of the above series deals specifically with Beeley and does a reasonable job of nailing her. Opens with her links to U75's fav holocaust-denier Nick Kollerstrom, suggest Bartlett actually originally radicalised her and then she in turn pushed bartlett even further into the sewer, emphasises how her ego is caught up in driving her to further extremes. Leaves out a lot because it's got a diff/wider target and doesn't really show just how disgusting-nutty she is nor her far-far-right views. Worth a listen.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
I've caught a lot of these while having my lunch in the van at work; as you say worth a listen. It's good to have something that takes time to work it's way through a complex set of tangled histories. The people who made it also did the excellent Tunnel 29 (link is to the background story...podcast is available elsewhere on the BBC).
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
splonkydoo
Well-Known Member
Was Clare Daly MEP hanging around these nutjobs for a while?
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Related, here's something on Fisk (was there a thread on him?).
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Beeley turned up very briefly in this Hope Not Hate podcast on Kollerstrom's red-brown crossover Keep Talking (holocaust deniers/piers corbyn/labour-left-loons/pro-covid etc) where she manages to accuses the white helmets of cross border organ smuggling.
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I see her as a plant to associate anti NATO war policy opinions with the far right and Russia
Let's be absolutely clear the west, the Arab states, and Jordan were arming, training, supplying, funding jihadis to fight their proxy wars again
Britain has long been a safe haven for the most violent jihadi groups such as the gia, Al Qaeda, Al jihad, the GCIM, al-gamaa al-islamiyya, see Paul Stott's phd study on the subject
ueaeprints.uea.ac.uk
The Dutch, the Israelis, the British have all admitted using jihadis to fight their proxy wars because the evidence is overwhelming
www.dutchnews.nl
www.timesofisrael.com
www.middleeasteye.net
The covert supply of Eastern European weapons left a trail of paper behind it that points back to ISIS and Al-Qaeda being massively supplied with Eastern European weapons ordered under US army export licenses
www.conflictarm.com
balkaninsight.com
Feel free to call me an assadist or a russian but honestly I'd like to strap the pair of them to a nuke and drop it on the pentagon tbh
My issue is demonizing Muslims for twenty years across every media channel 24 hours a day in a way that no other community has been attacked and then continuing to covertly arm and fund monstrous jihadi militias (this ain't about Islam it's about geopolitics, the militias provide a useful kamikaze strategy that's impossible to defeat on the battlefield) it ain't new it's been going on since Thatcher and Reagan armed the mudge. The west sees Muslims as disposable humans.
Human life means nothing to any of these psychopaths, NATO, the pentagon, the cia, the khaleejis, the Russians, Assad, they're scum the lot of them mass murdering psychopaths
Let's be absolutely clear the west, the Arab states, and Jordan were arming, training, supplying, funding jihadis to fight their proxy wars again
Britain has long been a safe haven for the most violent jihadi groups such as the gia, Al Qaeda, Al jihad, the GCIM, al-gamaa al-islamiyya, see Paul Stott's phd study on the subject
British Jihadism: The Detail and the Denial - UEA Digital Repository
The Dutch, the Israelis, the British have all admitted using jihadis to fight their proxy wars because the evidence is overwhelming
Dutch funded 'jihadist' group in Syria, terror trial may now falter - DutchNews.nl
The Dutch government has been supporting an armed group in Syria which has been branded a terrorist organisation by the public prosecution department, current affairs show Nieuwsuur reported on Monday night. The Netherlands provided uniforms and pick-up trucks to the group known as Jabbat...
www.dutchnews.nl
IDF chief finally acknowledges that Israel supplied weapons to Syrian rebels
In interview with UK's Sunday Times, outgoing army commander Gadi Eisenkot says Israel gave opposition groups light arms 'for self-defense'
www.timesofisrael.com
REVEALED: UK admits contact with Libyan group linked to Manchester bomber
Government says it is 'likely' it had contact with former members of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group during 2011 uprising against Gaddafi
www.middleeasteye.net
The covert supply of Eastern European weapons left a trail of paper behind it that points back to ISIS and Al-Qaeda being massively supplied with Eastern European weapons ordered under US army export licenses
WEAPONS OF THE ISLAMIC STATE | Conflict Armament Research
This report is the result of more than three years of field investigation into Islamic State supply chains. It presents an analysis of more than 40,000 items recovered from the group between 2014 and 2017. These items encompass weapons, ammunition, and the traceable components and chemical...
Making a Killing: The 1.2 Billion Euro Arms Pipeline to Middle East
An unprecedented flow of weapons from Central and Eastern Europe is flooding the battlefields of the Middle East.
balkaninsight.com
Feel free to call me an assadist or a russian but honestly I'd like to strap the pair of them to a nuke and drop it on the pentagon tbh
My issue is demonizing Muslims for twenty years across every media channel 24 hours a day in a way that no other community has been attacked and then continuing to covertly arm and fund monstrous jihadi militias (this ain't about Islam it's about geopolitics, the militias provide a useful kamikaze strategy that's impossible to defeat on the battlefield) it ain't new it's been going on since Thatcher and Reagan armed the mudge. The west sees Muslims as disposable humans.
Human life means nothing to any of these psychopaths, NATO, the pentagon, the cia, the khaleejis, the Russians, Assad, they're scum the lot of them mass murdering psychopaths
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Probably doesn't help that demonisation when people completely ignore non-Jihadi Muslims along with the rest of a population both suffering and battling repression in the midst of a war but manage to list what seems like every fucker else.I see her as a plant to associate anti NATO war policy opinions with the far right and Russia
Let's be absolutely clear the west, the Arab states, and Jordan were arming, training, supplying, funding jihadis to fight their proxy wars again
Britain has long been a safe haven for the most violent jihadi groups such as the gia, Al Qaeda, Al jihad, the GCIM, al-gamaa al-islamiyya, see Paul Stott's phd study on the subject
British Jihadism: The Detail and the Denial - UEA Digital Repository
The Dutch, the Israelis, the British have all admitted using jihadis to fight their proxy wars because the evidence is overwhelming
Dutch funded 'jihadist' group in Syria, terror trial may now falter - DutchNews.nl
The Dutch government has been supporting an armed group in Syria which has been branded a terrorist organisation by the public prosecution department, current affairs show Nieuwsuur reported on Monday night. The Netherlands provided uniforms and pick-up trucks to the group known as Jabbat...
IDF chief finally acknowledges that Israel supplied weapons to Syrian rebels
In interview with UK's Sunday Times, outgoing army commander Gadi Eisenkot says Israel gave opposition groups light arms 'for self-defense'
REVEALED: UK admits contact with Libyan group linked to Manchester bomber
Government says it is 'likely' it had contact with former members of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group during 2011 uprising against Gaddafi
The covert supply of Eastern European weapons left a trail of paper behind it that points back to ISIS and Al-Qaeda being massively supplied with Eastern European weapons ordered under US army export licenses
WEAPONS OF THE ISLAMIC STATE | Conflict Armament Research
This report is the result of more than three years of field investigation into Islamic State supply chains. It presents an analysis of more than 40,000 items recovered from the group between 2014 and 2017. These items encompass weapons, ammunition, and the traceable components and chemical...
Making a Killing: The 1.2 Billion Euro Arms Pipeline to Middle East
An unprecedented flow of weapons from Central and Eastern Europe is flooding the battlefields of the Middle East.
Feel free to call me an assadist or a russian but honestly I'd like to strap the pair of them to a nuke and drop it on the pentagon tbh
My issue is demonizing Muslims for twenty years across every media channel 24 hours a day in a way that no other community has been attacked and then continuing to covertly arm and fund monstrous jihadi militias (this ain't about Islam it's about geopolitics, the militias provide a useful kamikaze strategy that's impossible to defeat on the battlefield) it ain't new it's been going on since Thatcher and Reagan armed the mudge. The west sees Muslims as disposable humans.
Human life means nothing to any of these psychopaths, NATO, the pentagon, the cia, the khaleejis, the Russians, Assad, they're scum the lot of them mass murdering psychopaths
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cantsin
Well-Known Member
Can't remember what it was exactly, but Corbyn's final / inevitable contribution to the series, tho predictably sh*te (will never trust him on this stuff), was mercifully brief iirc ( listened to whole thing a couple of weeks back) , ie : one mention / line / crappy thing ? (And looking online, can find nothing quotable from him re: White Helmets / Syria , ie : it's all anti air strikes / chemical attack scepticism ? )
Not hanging out the bunting or anything, but, there's no actual recorded Beeleyism from JC ?
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rekil
to menny cranks
She and Wallace still do yes. She previously had credibility amongst normal people for trade union and womens rights work.
Thread by @Syria_Irl: "In @SunTimesIreland Mick Wallace said: '“Assad is leader of a huge country; I don’t know any leader of a huge country that behaves well' In […]"
Thread by @Syria_Irl: "In @SunTimesIreland Mick Wallace said: '“Assad is leader of a huge country; I don’t know any leader of a huge country well' In Dail he said Assad is 'not an exemplary democratic leader' Such statements re genocide need exposure […]"
threadreaderapp.com
Irish Independent Politicians Excuse Kremlin Crimes and Oppose Belarus Sanctions
Sarah Hurst reports on two Irish MEPs who regularly appear on Russian sponsored media to defend Putin's imperialist policies
bylinetimes.com
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rekil
to menny cranks
Beeley and her freakshow still @ing Chloe Hadjimatheou the BBC journo who did the Le Mesurier thing. She sent the email exchanges all over the crankosphere apparently believing this would be some sort of gotcha but all she's done is provide yet more evidence that she's a coward and raving nutter.
I would not be surprised if there are omissions or tampering but Hadjimatheou did describe Beeley as an "anti-establishment activist" which is far too complimentary. Her daddy's trust is mentioned but I dunno what it did or whether she had anything to do with it.
etc
I would not be surprised if there are omissions or tampering but Hadjimatheou did describe Beeley as an "anti-establishment activist" which is far too complimentary. Her daddy's trust is mentioned but I dunno what it did or whether she had anything to do with it.
rekil
to menny cranks
Posting gibberish on her shitty blog by a loon called "Makia Freeman" who naturally turns out to be a holocaust denier.
I expect most people have seen the articles about this fellow becoming a loon, Beeley, 21wire and so on in his follows on twitter, and how it got him killed.
metro.co.uk
Patrick Henningsen posted this famously shit AIDS denial documentary on his site in August. No surprise that there's a covid/aids denial overlap.
www.nytimes.com
I expect most people have seen the articles about this fellow becoming a loon, Beeley, 21wire and so on in his follows on twitter, and how it got him killed.
Covid kills Covid-denier who refused to wear mask or socially distance
The family of Gary Matthews, 46, have spoken out to convince others not to get caught up in lies about coronavirus.
metro.co.uk
Patrick Henningsen posted this famously shit AIDS denial documentary on his site in August. No surprise that there's a covid/aids denial overlap.
AIDS Seen From a Different Angle (Published 2009)
Couched as a “personal journey” through the history of H.I.V. and AIDS, “House of Numbers” is actually a weaselly support pamphlet for AIDS denialists.
NYT 2009 said:
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19force8
For the avoidance of faith
I've wondered how this happens to what seem reasonably balanced people, and I've watched in dismay as some go down this road online, and one in real life.I expect most people have seen the articles about this fellow becoming a loon, Beeley, 21wire and so on in his follows on twitter, and how it got him killed.
Covid kills Covid-denier who refused to wear mask or socially distance
The family of Gary Matthews, 46, have spoken out to convince others not to get caught up in lies about coronavirus.
This article offers some insights:
A Game Designer’s Analysis Of QAnon
"I am a game designer with experience in a very small niche. I create and research games designed to be played in reality. I’ve worked in Alternate Reality Games (ARGs), LARPs, experience fiction, interactive theater, and “serious games”. Stories and games that can start on a computer, and...
www.thestreet.com
It's written by a designer of live action games and puzzles. He describes how Q anon uses similar techniques to draw people deeper into their world.
tldr: The key is to provide questions and clues rather than fully formed theories. When people work out the answers for themselves they have a stronger response than when they just read the answer. Q was just the best at this of several competing anons.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Damn Sorros for paying off these historians to peddle the falsehoods.
rekil
to menny cranks
Raving anti-semitic conspiraloon reacts to finally getting booted off youtube.
I dunno what the final straw was. Probably covid denial. I'd given up going through loon shit for my own sanity. It's not healthy.
Funny enough, she didn't think youtube was very fascist when she was subscribing to all them neo-nazi channels.
I dunno what the final straw was. Probably covid denial. I'd given up going through loon shit for my own sanity. It's not healthy.
Funny enough, she didn't think youtube was very fascist when she was subscribing to all them neo-nazi channels.
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rekil
to menny cranks
After all that the youtube fascists have uncancelled her channel. So I was able to check if she still subscribes to holocaust denial channels and the 1st SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler propaganda fillum one. Yeah she does.
Meanwhile she apparently believes the people at the sarah everard vigil were crisis actors and the police were in on it.
Meanwhile she apparently believes the people at the sarah everard vigil were crisis actors and the police were in on it.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
What’s a crisis actor? Someone who falls over at the perfect moment?
teqniq
DisMembered
Crisis actors, deep state, false flag: the rise of conspiracy theory code words
The idea that mass shooting victims and witnesses are hired performers serving a dark purpose has over the last decade migrated from the farthest margins of conspiracy media
rekil
to menny cranks
Crisis actors, deep state, false flag: the rise of conspiracy theory code words
The idea that mass shooting victims and witnesses are hired performers serving a dark purpose has over the last decade migrated from the farthest margins of conspiracy mediawww.theguardian.com
etc
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Think this wasn't wholly serious
spikey_r
last train to Skaville...
another member of the Working group on Syria, propaganda & media caught out. even more proof (if it were needed) that the members of the aforementioned group are absolutely desperate for even the slightest proof, from however unbelievable the source. of anything to back up their lies & disinfo
"Prof McKeigue had been trying to unearth details about the Commission for International Justice and Accountability (Cija) - an organisation that gathers Syrian government documents for war crimes trials - when he struck up the email exchange.
Cija documents are currently being used in a war crimes trial, in which a former Syrian military intelligence officer stands accused on 4,000 counts of torture.
The Edinburgh University professor wanted information about a woman Cija's director might have slept with and asked whether he was a cocaine user."
"Prof McKeigue had been trying to unearth details about the Commission for International Justice and Accountability (Cija) - an organisation that gathers Syrian government documents for war crimes trials - when he struck up the email exchange.
Cija documents are currently being used in a war crimes trial, in which a former Syrian military intelligence officer stands accused on 4,000 counts of torture.
The Edinburgh University professor wanted information about a woman Cija's director might have slept with and asked whether he was a cocaine user."
UK professor shared info with fake Russian agent
Paul McKeigue shared information with a man who hinted he was a Russian agent, to discredit an NGO.
www.bbc.co.uk
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Someone liking this old post just popped up in my notifications. I think the fact she's gone down the 'covid conspiracy' route answers my question!
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Laurence Fox.