US: Boy shoots himself in head with submachine gun at gun show

[boskysquelch]

The one time I faced the potential use of a firearm against me, for being the unwanted minority at a party, it turned out that the person holding the party was, an american.

So you DID go to Diesel's do!!!

 

[editor]

The current laws disarm people and I've heard plenty of criticism on them..

Really? I've never seen or heard seen the British public articulating any desire for more guns, so perhaps you could elaborate on what you've heard?

Perhaps you could provide some evidence of Brits demanding personal gun ownership through mass demos, petitions, protests, rallies, campaigns etc etc because I've heard fuck all.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

To repeat something I've said before, I grew up in a place where every pickup truck had a gun rack in the window, with a .22 and a shotgun in each and every rack. And there were many pickup trucks on the road.

I've attended many a party where drunken brawls erupted, but at no time did anyone go to the parking lot and retrieve a firearm. It was simply inconceivable.

I've never been to a party where that happened either. In fact, I rarely ever see drunken brawls. Most people stay very aware of how much they are drinking and set a limit. (That's part of the culture too.)

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

You've added 'inherent' and 'hard wired' to what I said. I didn't say them.

Actually I wouldn't be suprised at finding a hard wired difference between those who stayed in Europe and those who migrated. They've already isolated a gene for risk taking, and picking up and moving across an ocean would qualify.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

IIRC, the gun laws vary depending on which state you happen to reside in, don't they. Gun law being a largely state rather than federal legal isusue.

Actually there are a number of federal laws that cover guns. For instance you're not allowed to transport a handgun across state lines. You are supposed to take it to a gun dealer and have him ship it. I don't know anyone who actually pays attention to that law, but its there.

But yes, gun laws do vary enormously by state and city.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Most people stay very aware of how much they are drinking and set a limit. (That's part of the culture too.)

*pffft*

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

*pffft*

Outside college campuses.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

So you DID go to Diesel's do!!!

Not quite.

I hadn't encountered 'Diesel' when I was seventeen: just some of his spiritual brethren.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I've never been to a party where that happened either. In fact, I rarely ever see drunken brawls. Most people stay very aware of how much they are drinking and set a limit. (That's part of the culture too.)

I don't know that there were that many, but the ones that did happen were memorable enough. Like the one at a country hall wedding, where the bride's and groom's families started a huge fight that ended up with two guys falling fighting onto the wedding cake, with the non related guests grabbing all the liquor and heading for the door. Even in those inflamed circumstances, nobody grabbed a shotgun off the gun rack.

That wedding was a lot of fun.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Actually I wouldn't be suprised at finding a hard wired difference between those who stayed in Europe and those who migrated. They've already isolated a gene for risk taking, and picking up and moving across an ocean would qualify.

I tried making this argument here a long time ago: all that happened, was everyone got really upset with me. None of them seemed inclined to agree with the concept.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

*pffft*

Most people say 'excuse me', after breaking wind.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Outside college campuses.

So I guess what I see on Girls Gone Wild, doesn't happen anywhere outside the halls of academia.

 

[XR75]

Really? I've never seen or heard seen the British public articulating any desire for more guns, so perhaps you could elaborate on what you've heard?

Olympic shooters asking for the laws to be relaxed for starters.You can think up some more along the lines of self defense and recreation yourself.

Perhaps you could provide some evidence of Brits demanding personal gun ownership through mass demos, petitions, protests, rallies, campaigns etc etc because I've heard fuck all.

Your request is flawed.Some subjects are more friendly towards those kind of things than others.

 

[editor]

Olympic shooters asking for the laws to be relaxed for starters.You can think up some more along the lines of self defense and recreation yourself.

LOL! That's hardly the same as a disarmed public demanding that they be given the right to own guns! Olympic shooters must make up about 0.001% of the population too, so they're hardly representational of the British public.

Want to try again?

 

[XR75]

LOL! That's hardly the same as a disarmed public demanding that they be given the right to own guns!

I said people had critsized the law.

Olympic shooters must make up about 0.001% of the population too, so they're hardly representational of the British public.

Did you not read the sentence after it.The one in your quote?
Why do you think only you know what the the public opinion is on this matter?

Want to try again?

You can if you want to reply to my first question you responded to,but with a proper answer instead of the tabloidesque one posted.

Why is the UK obsessed with disarming people?Which isn't just limited to guns.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Really? I've never seen or heard seen the British public articulating any desire for more guns, so perhaps you could elaborate on what you've heard?

Perhaps you could provide some evidence of Brits demanding personal gun ownership through mass demos, petitions, protests, rallies, campaigns etc etc because I've heard fuck all.

There's been plenty of bitching and moaning about how excessive the current gun control laws are, it doesn't get much press but the desire is there. Countryside alliance has it as part of their goals.

It's not a mass protest thing because it's not that vital, how many mass protests were there over the 10p tax?

Oh and Olympic shooters are fairly representative of their sports when they say the laws should be relaxed. Last i heard our teams had to go to france to practice, what utter mindboggling bollocks we can all agree that is.

 

[kabbes]

Actually I wouldn't be suprised at finding a hard wired difference between those who stayed in Europe and those who migrated. They've already isolated a gene for risk taking, and picking up and moving across an ocean would qualify.

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever for a "gene for risktaking".

 

[likesfish]

theres a lot of anger in shooting circles in that in both cases the police failed to do there job and enforce the regulations as they were at the time and then bring in knee jerk regulation
the coverage the gun control network get considering they are tiny and know feck all about shooting sports.
crims don't get guns and ammo from legal source.

 

[editor]

There's been plenty of bitching and moaning about how excessive the current gun control laws are, it doesn't get much press but the desire is there. Countryside alliance has it as part of their goals.is.

Err, but were not talking about sports. We're talking about the supposed suppressed desire of the "disarmed" British public for mass gun ownership.

 

[kabbes]

I can disarm you with a simple smile.

 

[editor]

I can disarm you with a simple smile.

You'd have to wrench that smile from my cold dying hands.

 

[camouflage]

When will America's ridiculous obsession with weaponry end? The kid was 8 years old and given a loaded Uzi to play with.

I couldn't care less, America can stick its guns up it's bum if it wants to, and then give the barrels a blow-job as far as I'm concerned. Does this make me a bad person?

 

[likesfish]

Err, but were not talking about sports. We're talking about the supposed suppressed desire of the "disarmed" British public for mass gun ownership.

well we were never asked if we wanted to be disarmed in the first place
It was'nt done for our safety it was done for there safety
I think If given a choice a lot of people would arm themselves for self defence make being a burgular a very unpopular career choice

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever for a "gene for risktaking".

I didn't mean that comment as a scientific analysis, but only an observation, but...

Ebstein's first venture into the field of gene study resulted in the adventure or thrill-seeking gene. "We looked at normal personality traits and found a relationship between extroversion and sensation seeking. The relationship involved the dopamine receptor within the brain and the sensation seeking behavior. It was one of the first studies that looked at the relationship between genes and personality," he said.

But the risk-taking gene, which is linked to a tendency for taking drugs, smoking and other dangerous behavior, is an opposite variant of the altruism gene. Instead of promoting dopamine expression, the risk-taking gene variant reduces it.

http://www.israel21c.org/bin/en.jsp...age&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Articles^l894

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

So I guess what I see on Girls Gone Wild, doesn't happen anywhere outside the halls of academia.

I flashed my tits at Sturgis once. Does that count?