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US: Boy shoots himself in head with submachine gun at gun show

Muggings against young children are on the increase. Children need to be able to protect themselves or the terrorists win.
 
its not capable of firing hundreds of rounds a minute its capable of emptying its magazine in less than a second so if it had a magazine of infinite rounds it would fire 1700 rounds a minute never going to do that 1700 9mm rounds weighs nearly 30 pounds.

Children can shoot guns completely safely BUT NOT THAT STYLE OF WEAPON I would argue most adults couldn't shoot said gun safely
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/small_arms/uzi/U
 
editor said:
Yeah! What could possibly be wrong with giving a small child a fully loaded, high powered lethal weapon capable of firing hundreds of rounds per minute?!
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Plenty of people and kids manage just fine at shoots.
You could give a someone a shot on one of these and it's unlikely there would be a problem.

Accidents happen due to incompetence or improper safety procedures.
I'm sure you can think of examples at a fair ground where serious accidents could happen due to the reasons I've given above.
That's why the comments from some posters in the thread look knee jerk and biased.
 
Here's the strange thing about this - why aren't any of you blaming the owner of the stall/stand that allowed the child to pick up the weapon and shoot it?

Someone was not paying attention and a child died - hence the tragedy.

ohh - it happened in the states, must put in on urban. BONUS - the childs death involved a gun.

*cue the vultures*

:rolleyes:
 
Badgers said:
A bill banning under-21s from firing automatic weapons seems like something that should already be in place. In fact a ban on ALL weapons being fired by under-21s seems a little more logical.
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Like laws really work don't they....


under 18s not allowed to buy alcohol, knives etc
 
spring-peeper said:
Here's the strange thing about this - why aren't any of you blaming the owner of the stall/stand that allowed the child to pick up the weapon and shoot it?
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They too are a fucking idiot.

Then again the parent has a touch more responsibility to look after their child. Leaving an under ten to run around unsupervised where live fire is taking place is really, really fucking stupid. :rolleyes:
 
Detroit City said:
the past created the present. had the english left the americans alone 200+ years ago there would have been no "right to bear arms" in the US
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Yeah, cos the french who were invaded by the fucking Nazis less than 70 years ago have a fanatical need for firearms in the home...

(Godwins law, i win :D)
 
Detroit City said:
the past created the present. had the english left the americans alone 200+ years ago there would have been no "right to bear arms" in the US
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Actually, it is my fault and mine alone. I bear full responsibilty for the US being awash with every conceivable machine capable of firing a bullet.


Yes, maybe you do need a gun when you go up in the mountains as stated by others as a reason Americans still feel that they need guns. However, I'm not convinced a mini uzi that can empty itself of bullets in a few seconds would be the right choice. In fact I fail to see how it can be the right choice for any situation unless you are trying to recreate a Tarantino movie.

Just because Americans have the right to bear arms doesn't mean they need to :(
 
Bob_the_lost said:
They too are a fucking idiot.

Then again the parent has a touch more responsibility to look after their child. Leaving an under ten to run around unsupervised where live fire is taking place is really, really fucking stupid. :rolleyes:
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I totally agree - well almost.

I would let my kids run wild at an event such as that. I mean, my kids would have basic training in not-going-off-with-strangers and all that, but I would assume that the facility would not be stupid never to put my child in danger.

In the parents defense, if there could be one, I had a kid that wandered off. He did it constantly - twice at a fair :mad: finally found him, he asked for a drink and when I went to give it to him, he was gone again. He was 4 at the time and it wasn't the first or last time he did it. ah - the memories of kindness of stangers...

Imo - the person who was responsible for the weapon and handled it to the child was the person at fault.

I was at a fair and someone died during a bungy-jump. Splatt - in front of everyone. The parent was not held responsible, it was the operator - the person whose job it was to say it was ok to continue.

I'm hoping that this is the way New Hampshire handles it - no one, should have given an eight year old a gun like that and if it takes a law to make this never happens again, then make it so.
 
tendril said:
Just because Americans have the right to bear arms doesn't mean they need to :(
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the majority of americans don't own any firearms....its just the vocal and powerful minority that do.

and that right to bear arms comes directly from protecting the fledgeling nation from the british
 
Bob_the_lost said:
Yeah, cos the french who were invaded by the fucking Nazis less than 70 years ago have a fanatical need for firearms in the home...

(Godwins law, i win :D)
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which is quite ironic since had the US not intervened in the European theatre in WWII you would be German right now wearing leaderhosen and eating sauerbraten and loyal to the fourth reich
 
There should be some sort of proper assessment of the individuals level of responsibility before they are permitted a licence to have them.

(Children, that is, not guns ;) )
 
spring-peeper said:
Imo - the person who was responsible for the weapon and handled it to the child was the person at fault.

I was at a fair and someone died during a bungy-jump. Splatt - in front of everyone. The parent was not held responsible, it was the operator - the person whose job it was to say it was ok to continue.

I'm hoping that this is the way New Hampshire handles it - no one, should have given an eight year old a gun like that and if it takes a law to make this never happens again, then make it so.
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I agree. They should have a special category of the Darwin awards for parents this stupid.

I went to an archery event and some spectator managed to run their friend through. They had to airlift the guy out. The guy who knifed him did a "Look at this knife Vern!" with the point outward. :rolleyes:

BTW, this was probably already illegal in some way. I know where I live no one is allowed to load, shoot, or have loaded a gun at a gun show.
 
Detroit City said:
the "point" is that that same american "culture of violence" that was begat by the British is also the same thing that saved the UK's ass in WWII
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Bollocks! :D

The US's industrial might was vital, the individual ownership of firearms in the US wasn't. You going to thank us for your industry now too!?

Not to mention my frivolous point, that was covered in a much more sensible way by RD.
 
Detroit City said:
the "point" is that that same american "culture of violence" that was begat by the British is also the same thing that saved the UK's ass in WWII
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The Red Army, the Soviet planned economy and the Russian Winter having nothing to do with said 'saving' then?! :rolleyes:
 
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