Unpopular film & TV opinions

[Orang Utan]

Tom Hanks is a modern day (but less good) Henry Fonda really. Never plays a villain, and if you don’t like the sort of character he plays as he’s inevitably the hero in a character-based drama then I can understand why you wouldn’t want watch his films.

Maybe Hanks needs to play a real evil villain to show he has a bit of range

That’s not true. He was Colonel Tom Parker in that Elvis film, an evil Irish gangster who chucks journalists off of balconies at parties in Cloud Atlas and a swindler, thief and a potential old lady killer in the aforementioned The Lady Killers.
And Henry Fonda famously played a psychopathic murderer in Once Upon A Time In The West

 

[Elpenor]

That’s not true. He was Colonel Tom Parker in that Elvis film, an evil Irish gangster who chucks journalists off of balconies at parties in Cloud Atlas and a swindler, thief and a potential old lady killer in the aforementioned The Lady Killers.
And Henry Fonda famously played a psychopathic murderer in Once Upon A Time In The West

Perhaps “never” a bit strong but he tends to play the nice guys.

And yes I know about Fonda, but my point was his turn in OUATITW was seen as completely against the grain and is probably in his top few performances

 

[tonysingh]

He's not a hero in Ladykillers, mind you, and is very good at being a slimy fucker in that.

Fonda was brilliant as a baddie in Once Upon A Time In the West. Good call that Hanks could do with a role like that.

The original Ladykillers is a classic. Everyone involved with the remake is a wanker for attempting to emulate it.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The original Ladykillers is a classic. Everyone involved with the remake is a wanker for attempting to emulate it.

That's what I thought I'd think. But I liked it. They transferred it to the US and it worked.

 

[tonysingh]

That's what I thought I'd think. But I liked it. They transferred it to the US and it worked.

The Ealing Comedies are a high point of British culture for me and shouldn't be touched.

But then I'm weird like that.

 

[Orang Utan]

That's what I thought I'd think. But I liked it. They transferred it to the US and it worked.

It didn’t. It was shit

 

[T & P]

Film critics talk out of their arse half of the time, and for the most part, are completely out of sync with the viewing public when it comes to cheap thrills action/ thriller films, which they’re happy to dismiss as worthless garbage when they first premiere, only to laud as them all-time greats of the genre years down the line after they’ve become cult classics.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Depends on the critic. Many film critics are essentially industry shills. I mostly trust the ones who write for the Roger Ebert site (Ebert was a good critic). The likes of Mark Kermode are worthless.

But you're never going to agree with everything they say. The BFI critic at the time slated Onibaba when it came out, for instance. Which is just weird. But liking or not liking films is subjective.

 

[RedRedRose]

Kiera Knightley

Good call, but she was decent as the grating, immature character in Never Let Me Go.

 

[Epona]

Good call, but she was decent as the grating, immature character in Never Let Me Go.

Never Let Me Go is fucking awesome, an unsung star of the dystopia genre.
The book is good too, in case anyone hasn't read it.

(This in response to the quoted post, not offered as an unpopular opinion!)

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Anything with monsters, werewolves, slashers, vampires, zombies, ghosts, or Kiera Knightley, can fuck right off.

Shaun of the Dead?

 

[tonysingh]

Shaun of the Dead?

Yes, that shite can fuck off.

 

[Orang Utan]

Film critics talk out of their arse half of the time, and for the most part, are completely out of sync with the viewing public when it comes to cheap thrills action/ thriller films, which they’re happy to dismiss as worthless garbage when they first premiere, only to laud as them all-time greats of the genre years down the line after they’ve become cult classics.

Bullshit. Show your workings.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Bullshit. Show your workings.

There are a few examples tbf. You'll be hard pushed today to find a film critic who doesn't think Night of the Hunter is an amazing film. When it came out, it was widely slated.

Probably not quite the thread for it, but I'll put it here. Anyone who hasn't seen Seconds needs to watch it. One of the most underrated films in history and has just about the most perfect ending of any film ever made. Lukewarm reception, and unlike Night of the Hunter hasn't gained a retrospective greatness.

 

[Orang Utan]

I didn’t ask you

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Yes, that shite can fuck off.

Penelope Wilton is something of a British M Emmet Walsh. Any film with her in it can't be all bad. 'He was a bit bitey.'

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You're never going to agree all the time with anyone other than yourself. And even then, it's not reliable.

 

[paul mckenna]

Known in academic circles as The Belboid Rule

Google isn't showing much on this. Am I missing a joke or something?

 

[Santino]

Who cares what actors are in a film? Who's the director?

Penelope Wilton is something of a British M Emmet Walsh. Any film with her in it can't be all bad. 'He was a bit bitey.'

 

[Elpenor]

This is a bit like the new jokes thread

 

[Spymaster]

Shaun of the Dead?

Dickhead. Probably. Never seen it.

 

[Chz]

I never understand people who pre judge movies/tv by the people who are in acting in it. They might very well be different in the new role they are playing because they are um... actors.

Actors choose their roles. Quite a lot of them definitely have a "type" of film they prefer to be in.

I use Adam Driver as my example. I think he's a perfectly good actor, and I've nothing against him. But I've disliked every single film I've seen him in. (and Girls, fwiw) Though I suppose you could argue that ranging from Star Wars to divorce dramas doesn't represent a type.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Actors choose their roles. Quite a lot of them definitely have a "type" of film they prefer to be in.

I use Adam Driver as my example. I think he's a perfectly good actor, and I've nothing against him. But I've disliked every single film I've seen him in. (and Girls, fwiw) Though I suppose you could argue that ranging from Star Wars to divorce dramas doesn't represent a type.

Have you seen Jim Jarmusch's Paterson? It's quite an odd film, even by Jarmusch's standards, but worth checking out even if it does star Adam Driver.

 

[Sue]

Have you seen Jim Jarmusch's Paterson? It's quite an odd film, even by Jarmusch's standards, but worth checking out even if it does star Adam Driver.

God, I was bored. I was like 'HOW MANY DAYS DO WE NEED TO SIT THROUGH????'

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Yeah not much happens, it is true. I think the repetition is part of the point, mind you. Perhaps a point that makes it boring to watch?

 

[Knotted]

Actors choose their roles. Quite a lot of them definitely have a "type" of film they prefer to be in.

I use Adam Driver as my example. I think he's a perfectly good actor, and I've nothing against him. But I've disliked every single film I've seen him in. (and Girls, fwiw) Though I suppose you could argue that ranging from Star Wars to divorce dramas doesn't represent a type.

Marriage Story, The Force Awakens, The Dead Don't Die, Blakkklansman. These don't strike me as being of the same type whatever you think of them.

 

[Orang Utan]

Some actors have more range than others - hard to imagine Ricky Gervaise's Hamlet.

He wouldn't want to tread the boards as that whiny snowflake. Mind you, he comes across as one on stage, so maybe he should give it a go

 

[Chz]

Marriage Story, The Force Awakens, The Dead Don't Die, Blakkklansman. These don't strike me as being of the same type whatever you think of them.

It doesn't seem that way. But maybe there is something that connects them (other than Adam Driver). I still haven't banned him from the telly, so maybe one day he'll be in something I like and it will allow me to see what links the other films.

 

[Sue]

Yeah not much happens, it is true. I think the repetition is part of the point, mind you. Perhaps a point that makes it boring to watch?

Oh, I'm sure it was. A point about his life being dull/repetitive or something. But yes, dull to watch.

 

[Sue]

Marriage Story, The Force Awakens, The Dead Don't Die, Blakkklansman. These don't strike me as being of the same type whatever you think of them.

Yeah, but none of them is very good.