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Dale Crover
Underrated but essential band members..
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Silas Loom
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Brix, too, for my money.
Sweet FA
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I saw Young Fathers last summer and there's a bloke who basically does everything except drum or sing. The 5 people up front are achingly cool and beautiful and even the drummer is all trendily standing up with tight top and tattoos.
This other guy though - he very rarely had a light on him and was never still; switching guitars, pushing buttons, playing keyboards etc. He looked like shit too - I mean he had a suit on but his was more Brilleaux than Bowie. He looked knackered and in need of bath tbh. I was standing over his side of the stage and became quietly convinced he was being kept prisoner like Jesse Pinkman.
This other guy though - he very rarely had a light on him and was never still; switching guitars, pushing buttons, playing keyboards etc. He looked like shit too - I mean he had a suit on but his was more Brilleaux than Bowie. He looked knackered and in need of bath tbh. I was standing over his side of the stage and became quietly convinced he was being kept prisoner like Jesse Pinkman.
petee
no gods, no malarkey
probably a better choice for an "underrated" thread.
martin bramah was proabaly a better choice for that too than the ones i mentioned.
ska invita
back on the other side
only thing i can think to add is the first drummer Placebo had, Robert Schultzberg, was really good and gave the band a funkier energy, lacking in a lot of rock, making them that bit more special. I dont think they were anywhere as good without him....much more ploddy. Seems as if he stopped professional drumming after this too.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Top 5:
1. Marx, Adams, Avalanche and Hussey (yes, Hussey)
2. Peter Hook (by the rest of his band..)
3. Gerard Love
4. Will Heggie
5. Martin Duffy
1. Marx, Adams, Avalanche and Hussey (yes, Hussey)
2. Peter Hook (by the rest of his band..)
3. Gerard Love
4. Will Heggie
5. Martin Duffy
I really like the very brief period of the Fall with Mike Leigh on drums. He played inside the music and allowed the others to flourish, if you listen to those records (Dragnet and Totale's Turn) everyone is doing something interesting. With Hanley and/or Burns on drums the sound is (generally) more mechanical.
The best line up is the even briefer period with Mike Leigh on drums and Yvonne Pawlet on keyboards. Nothing much ever became of either of them.
The best line up is the even briefer period with Mike Leigh on drums and Yvonne Pawlet on keyboards. Nothing much ever became of either of them.
andysays
Love and solidarity
There are a few posts on this thread which have made me scratch my head, but this one is just bizarre.
McGeoch was widely recognised as a great guitarist at the time, and is now one of the most celebrated of his generation.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
thats true amongst musos and music nerds - but a lot more people know Budgie, Steven Severin and Siouxie or Howard Devoto but have never heard of McGeoch. I wasnt really aware of him until recent years - depsite growing up with the music and really rating the guitar playing in magazine and his era of the banshees (didnt even know it was the same person).
andysays
Love and solidarity
Fair enough. I wouldn't consider myself either a muso or a music nerd, but I'm aware of how well regarded McGeoch was/is as a guitarist among both his peers and those who came after.
Two examples off the top of my head - Siouxsie is on record as saying he was the best guitarist the Banshees ever had, and Johnny Marr was/is a huge fan.
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Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
for sure - but its a bit like the motown house band, funk brothers (who i also listed) - plenty of musicans will know of them and rate them - especially bass player james jameson (paul mc cartney was a big fan of his for one) - but they are nowhere near as well known as the singers of the songs the arranged and played on or as the "classic" 60s rock bands.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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He was the spirit of the band, or at least the bands spirt animal. Right from the start it's what the audience and journalists latched onto. He certainly contributed to their success and arguably their musical direction with his influence.
I think it's quite right to say that his role in the band was underrated.
When I was a teen heading out to watch the Happy Mondays, it was Bez & Shaun people wanted to see. Not the other static band mates. Bez set the pace and groove.
I sound like I'm a fan boy. I'm not. I liked a couple of early singles and two or three tracks off the second album. I think Bez and his dance drugs setting the pace and groove took them into a quite objectionable direction. . . . . But the people seemed to love it. Same as always.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Robert Smith - Siouxsie and the Banshees
Dystopiary
Left lyrics in the practice room
Long thought Paul Ryder was underrated tbh.
Orang Utan
Acceptable through usage
Aye, he was like the cox in a rowing team.
Orang Utan
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What did George Clinton do apart from toast? He was kind of a Bez, but more of a leader than Bez was
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Ignorant nonsense. He wrote, produced and sang. One of the most influential artists in the history of funk.
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
Alan Wilder of Depeche Mode. Left because he wasn't appreciated.
Orang Utan
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It’s not ignorant nonsense. I wasn’t criticising him. He’s a genius. He didn’t really play any instruments, but he provided direction and vibes on stage, hence the comparison with Bez
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Sail hatin'
Sorry, no. If you had said Paul Rutherford, would agree. But GC is nothing like Bez. Not underrated at all.
Orang Utan
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I didn’t say he was underrated. I was just commenting on his stage presence, which is similar to Bez’s in the way ATOMIC SUPLEX described
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Good analogy.
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