Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ)
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Ax^
Silly Rabbit
I think if the zombies came I would be ready
take it you have an older diesel that can run on cooking oil
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I know someone who rode a diesel motorbike around the world. He intended to ride on vegetable oil from retail but I believe he found it harder to start so ended up with dual fuel, diesel to start and veg to run on. He did have various issues and often had to have his internals cleaned.take it you have an older diesel that can run on cooking oil
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
in an economic crises when people are struggle to heat their homes
this has fuck all to do with air quality and more about paying off the loans the london mayor office had to take out to keep the buses running during covid
even with the tory mayor this shite would still happen
air quality is sacrosanct.
when the uk opened a fucking coal mine this year
this has fuck all to do with air quality and more about paying off the loans the london mayor office had to take out to keep the buses running during covid
even with the tory mayor this shite would still happen
air quality is sacrosanct.
when the uk opened a fucking coal mine this year
T & P
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I had no idea diesel bikes existed!
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FWIW I am fully supportive of the principle behind ULEZ, but it seems to me the implementation of it in London is far from perfect, and in some cases counterproductive. Of course we should encourage to a switch to less polluting vehicles. But perhaps an escalator system of charges based on the vehicle’s engine size and age rather than a flat charge would have been far better. We already do that to calculate ‘road tax’ so easily implemented.
But as things stand, a lot of occasional car users, who by definition aren’t producing the bulk of overall yearly emissions, are being driven to ditch their old but frugal
and well maintained cars they would have used for many more years, and get a ULEZ compliant replacement. Which is going to be more polluting on the whole than continuing utilising a small engined relatively recent car for five more years.
Something like charging £5 a day for the least significant offenders like a 1.1L Fiesta, rising to £20 for the real problematic vehicles, like 15-year old large vans used several hours a day, would surely have been much fairer and even prevented wasteful car replacements.
I personally would have liked to see a combination of a fairer structured ULEZ and a new charge for cars above a certain CC size and/or car size. Diesel engine or not, I can’t believe the overall environmental and road safety impact of a small 1.1L Polo-sized car is more damaging and disrupting to a city and its inhabitants than a 3.5L petrol Range Rover sized SUV.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
This would cost a lot more to implement.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
A quick search on Autotrader shows second hand ULEZ compliant cars are available for as little as a grand, so can we lose all this “oh nobody can afford one” bollocks please.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh because everyone can afford petrol or insurance or parking
nick
Pleomorphic Adenomas R us
If you owned your non compliant vehicle on 30 Jan. That nice Mr Khan will give you 2600 to crush it, or £3k part cash and part bus passes. Or £5k of it was wheelchair accessible
The Guardian - but it may still be true
The Guardian - but it may still be true
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
The argument seems to be for people that are already own cars, and thus are paying that.
If you already own and can afford to run a car, the change to a ULEZ compliant one really isn’t quite the cost the oh-so-concerned antis make it out to be.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Ah your previous post seemed to be saying owning a car was within everyone's reach
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
It begs the question "what the fuck are these people driving if they're uncompliant (unless it's diesel)?"
My 11 year old petrol 640i is ULEZ compliant!
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Not if you were paying any attention to the discussion.
Fuzzy
Hearts Cov
I stand corrected.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
They don't really, his was quite a unique machine.
Very slow and I would have thought quite unsuitable for a world wide expedition but he stuck to his guns.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
No, just that the same dickheads who are magically and suddenly oh so concerned about “the disabled” when bike lanes get built are now similarly worried about all those poor hard working plumbers driving around in a 1992 transit van.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
I mean, for fucks sake
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Carbase tend to mostly do ex-lease or fleet cars, doubt they’ll have anything much older than five years old on their books, so not a place you’d find a compliant 20-year old Micro or similar.
I mean, for fucks sake
I may own two vehicles (one electric, one diesel. I am a car centrist) but I will never identify as a 'motorist' which I've always seen as being a synonym for "twat"
hash tag
Books, not bombs
Mrs tags 20 year old Micra was not compliant unfortunately even though the petrol engine was only about 998CC.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
it might be but it's only 110 million so not everyone who is entitled to it will be able to claim
ON radio this morning, they had some moaning mini from the classic mini club lots of them may give up the London to Brighton run because 24 quid. Pathetic FFS. if you can afford to keep basically an old inefficient polluting car on the road just for fun but 24 quid is gonna spoil your hobby, get some fucking perspective.
