UGLE and Gender policy

[butcher]

UGLE publishes its gender reassignment policy

So how does this fit in with peoples pre-conceptions of Freemasonry?

 

[8ball]

 

[quimcunx]

– The Order of Women Freemasons (OWF) and The Honourable Fraternity of Ancient Freemasons (HFAF) – both of whom refer to members as Brothers.

 

[classicdish]

UGLE publishes its gender reassignment policy

So how does this fit in with peoples pre-conceptions of Freemasonry?

They don't have any choice do they? Aren't they just more or less stating that they comply with the 2010 Equality Act? They don't seem to be going any further than meeting the basic legal requirements.

 

[mx wcfc]

They don't have any choice do they? Aren't they just more or less stating that they comply with the 2010 Equality Act? They don't seem to be going any further than meeting the basic legal requirements.

Agreed. A lawyer has written that for them. Or at least signed it off.

That said, I'd love to be at the first Freemasons meeting with a couple of trans women who had joined the masons as men, and a couple of trans men.

Only I'll never be a Mason.

 

[butcher]

Agreed. A lawyer has written that for them. Or at least signed it off.

AFAIK it was Edward Lord Gender equality campaigner defends Freemason membership

 

[Spymaster]

Some of the ritual might need, err, adjusting!

 

[bimble]

That's the same bloke whose attempt to make people like him on twitter with this post a few days ago didn't work out how he had hoped.



He's in charge of the City Of London's current gender identity consultation, whose loaded survey has annoyed a lot of people too.

 

[Santino]

Do I understand it correctly that they will allow men, trans women and trans men to join, but not natal women?

 

[bimble]

Do I understand it correctly that they will allow men, trans women and trans men to join, but not natal women?

I think trans women have to have already been members as men ? Which is really awkward ideologically.

 

[Spymaster]

I think trans women have to have already been members as men ? Which is really awkward ideologically.

It is, but it’s probably because in freemasonry once you have become a mason you are one for the rest of your life. I doubt this will ever be an issue though.