Twin Peaks
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yes. but it's still worth watching.
dessiato
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danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I've made a damn fine pie today.
Geri
wasn't born to follow
Cherry?
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
It was bloody toe-curling the last time I saw any of it and that was yonks ago!
Did you like it at the time it was first shown though? It did divide an audience and I'm not sure its the sort of thing you warm to gradually if it doesn't grab you first time round.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Quite liked it - Didn't get into it in the way many folk I knew did. In fact, despite everything, I probably liked better the last time I watched it.
I also have the series of Edge of Darkness lined-up to watch again, hopefully that won't have dated too much either.
I got into it for the first time about 3yrs ago. Missed it first time round.
Then I introduced Artichoke to it 2yrs ago
It's absolutely outstanding, until Laura's death is solved. I could never get arsed with the stuff after that. Too many characters change, and the plot(s) dither all over without getting anywhere at all.
Then I introduced Artichoke to it 2yrs ago
It's absolutely outstanding, until Laura's death is solved. I could never get arsed with the stuff after that. Too many characters change, and the plot(s) dither all over without getting anywhere at all.
Reno
The In Kraut
I really like season two and thought Windom Earle was just shaping up to become a great villain when the series got cancelled. The first season was quite inconsistent as well. The David Lynch directed pilot was fantastic, but after that there were several redundant sub-plots and the series forever elaborated on stuff that should have just been the type of throw away gags you get in Lynch's films. The Log Lady for instance should have never become a proper character, I wished she could have stayed an absudist enigma. Solving the Laura Palmer murder may have been the hook that made it easier to sell and around which to build the series but as I'm not a huge fan of whodunnits it was never that essential to me. That said, the episode where Laura Palma's murderer kills again is still one of the best and creepiest episodes in TV history. Of course also directed by Lynch, like all the best episodes.
Miss Caphat
I want it that way
How's Annie? 
omg I will never forget that moment.
that's kind of a spoiler btw, don't look it up if you haven't seen the show.
omg I will never forget that moment. that's kind of a spoiler btw, don't look it up if you haven't seen the show.
Reno
The In Kraut
How's Annie?
that's kind of a spoiler btw, don't look it up if you haven't seen the show.
Apparently she became a rollerskating porn star.
Twin Peaks probably ended on one of the best yet most frustrating cliff hangers ever.
tbh, my biggest beef was the extent to which characters were killed off / absented themselves. In something like 2 or 3 episodes, a vast proportion of the mainstays of Series 1 were done away with, and replaced by people who I neither knew nor gave a fuck about.
Which might've sustained my interest if there'd been (at least) something approaching a stable plot unrolling in the background. During the mass character assassinations, at least. As it was, it just felt - to me, at least - like it was frantically scrabbling at almost anything whilst getting rid of everything that'd got me hooked on it in the first place.
Reno
The In Kraut
As far as I can remember most of the lead characters stayed for the entire run. Some of the less interesting ones like Josie Packard and Catherine Martell were written out. I haven't watched it in a while, but who was it you were missing ? I liked some of the new characters like Annie and Agent Dennis/Denise. Inevitably some characters in a horror/murder mystery series will have to get bumped off, but most of them were guest stars and non-regular characters. Towards the end I liked how Twin Peaks dropped the more soapy plot lines like the Packard/Martell feud and embraced the full on supernatural horror of the Black Lodge.
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
Blimey - "bloody toe-curling" the last time you watched it, but you liked it better than the time before? What was it the time before, fucking bloody toe-curling?
maya
timewasting fool (in every universe)
Don't know exactly how to put it but have anyone else noticed the 1950s flavour of Twin Peaks? I'm not sure when it's supposed to be set, presumably in the late 1980s or early 1990s (it first aired in 1990, so means it must've been filmed around 1989 as, you know, filming takes some time), but visually there's loads of 1950s references- especially around the highschool environment where nobody wears typically 1980s clothes but rather very conservative, 'proper' 1950-ish clothes (the girls in cardigans and checkered skirts, the boys in college jackets-) and the school principal announces Laura's death in a microphone sound system thingy which looks like a fifties relic, really old... In the roadhouse, the bikers wear oldfashioned leather jackets which is more Tom of Finland than contemporary eighties fashion.
Actually the only one who's visibly and blatantly 1980s fashion-wise must be Lucy Moran (the police secretary with the squeaky voice), she's got a proper frizzy perm and wears wacky, oversized knitted sweaters in typical 80s patterns...
Also, Nadine Hurley (the eyepatch woman) is quite literally stuck in the 1950s as she mentally regresses to her highschool years and thinks she's a teenager again- visually represented by the knickknack shelf in her and Ed's house with all the little ceramic trinkets, which she supposedly got when she was younger.
Re: the music- There's a great interview somewhere with the soundtrack composer Angelo Badalamenti(sp?), recalling how he usually got some cryptic hints from Lynch on how to write the songs:
"He sent me a lyric called `Mysteries Of Love`. It was like six lines of poetry. I called him and asked him, `What do you want me to do with this? What kind of music?`He said, `Make it like the waves in the ocean. Make the music like a beautiful wind and like the song chanting through time. And cosmic.`So I said, `Oh. I´m glad you told me.`" ( )
TBH I'm not sure Twin Peaks would've had the same impact it had if the music hadn't been by Badalamenti... He adds something very tangible to the visuals. It's a very good director-composer match (probably the reason why Lynch have stuck with him ever since)
Actually the only one who's visibly and blatantly 1980s fashion-wise must be Lucy Moran (the police secretary with the squeaky voice), she's got a proper frizzy perm and wears wacky, oversized knitted sweaters in typical 80s patterns...
Also, Nadine Hurley (the eyepatch woman) is quite literally stuck in the 1950s as she mentally regresses to her highschool years and thinks she's a teenager again- visually represented by the knickknack shelf in her and Ed's house with all the little ceramic trinkets, which she supposedly got when she was younger.
Re: the music- There's a great interview somewhere with the soundtrack composer Angelo Badalamenti(sp?), recalling how he usually got some cryptic hints from Lynch on how to write the songs:
"He sent me a lyric called `Mysteries Of Love`. It was like six lines of poetry. I called him and asked him, `What do you want me to do with this? What kind of music?`He said, `Make it like the waves in the ocean. Make the music like a beautiful wind and like the song chanting through time. And cosmic.`So I said, `Oh. I´m glad you told me.`" (
)TBH I'm not sure Twin Peaks would've had the same impact it had if the music hadn't been by Badalamenti... He adds something very tangible to the visuals. It's a very good director-composer match (probably the reason why Lynch have stuck with him ever since)
Fez909
toilet expert
A lot of the real towns that inspire Lynch and Twin Peaks are kinda stuck in a time warp and hold the 50s as an ideal, the golden era.
But he then likes to point out the murky goings on beneath the thin mask of society and banality.
The same is true for Mulholland Drive and Blue Velvet. Expose the myth of the ideals we are sold/believe in.
But he then likes to point out the murky goings on beneath the thin mask of society and banality.
The same is true for Mulholland Drive and Blue Velvet. Expose the myth of the ideals we are sold/believe in.
maya
timewasting fool (in every universe)
Yeah, like the sinister undercurrents lurking underneath the perfect facades- be it suburbia/actual towns/places or successful people/faces... Nothing is really what it appears to be... There's always something else, something eerie and less controlled. Primal instincts vs. the veneer of civilisation, maybe. Lol, I sound like a pretentious twat now... time for coffee.
Lynch did grow up in one of those archetypal small towns, though- and he was a boy scout! The mind boggles...
Lynch did grow up in one of those archetypal small towns, though- and he was a boy scout! The mind boggles...
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
Several of his films have the same not-quite-50s feel to them. The way I read it, he doesn't want to anchor his work to 'the present day', which would date it much faster. (As it happens, I recently watched both series again for the first time and was nervous about how badly it might have dated, but I think it fares much better than many other shows from the same time for this reason). It hints most strongly at the 50s because to Lynch that's the archetypal period of the American Dream ('two cars in every garage' etc) - and so also the time in which the dream-perfect facade jars most with the ugliness below the surface. Fez is right though - plenty of backwaters in rural US still looked pretty much like this in the 90s.
Silva
This went well.
I bought the (now not-so) Definitive Gold Box two years ago, and usually replay it by end of February every year.
Like it was mentioned before, it goes a bit downhill after the Laura Palmer mystery is solved - the network thought that had to happen, but what drove the series were the love triangles, the Packard Mill conspiracy and the whole sordidness under the covers of small-town america, and the murder investigation kind of glued all the soap-opera bits and Lynch's quirkyness into place. then, Lynch/Frost kind of lost interest in the series due to excessive meddling, and by the final episodes, it ran out of steam.
Also, is it me, or the "mystery club" (the pet name a friend of mine have for James/Donna/Maddy) are thick as shit?
Like it was mentioned before, it goes a bit downhill after the Laura Palmer mystery is solved - the network thought that had to happen, but what drove the series were the love triangles, the Packard Mill conspiracy and the whole sordidness under the covers of small-town america, and the murder investigation kind of glued all the soap-opera bits and Lynch's quirkyness into place. then, Lynch/Frost kind of lost interest in the series due to excessive meddling, and by the final episodes, it ran out of steam.
Also, is it me, or the "mystery club" (the pet name a friend of mine have for James/Donna/Maddy) are thick as shit?
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