Tunisia; Massacre at the museum

[treelover]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/19/briton-dead-tunisia-museum-attack-bardo

At least 17 tourists and two Tunisians, as well as the two gunmen died in the attack. Authorities in the Tunisian capital are still trying to account for the dead and injured amid conflicting reports of the number of people and nationalities involved. The country’s prime minister, Habib Essid, said people from at least eight countries had died.

The other victims include three Japanese, four Italians, two Colombians, two Spaniards, an Australian, a Pole and a French national, Essid said. Other reports said an unknown number of South African tourists may have been involved.

Two Tunisians – a bus driver and a policeman – also died in the attack, along with the two gunmen, named by Essid as Yassine Laabidi and Hatem Khachnaoui.

At least 44 people were wounded, including 13 Italians, seven French, four Japanese, two South Africans, one Pole, one Russian and six Tunisians. Essid did not provide any information regarding the nationalities of the other wounded.

Latest reports are 21 people were killed when two gunmen opened fire in Tunis' prestigious Bardo Museum,

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...reets-denounce-bardo-museum-attack-war-terror

though the spirit of the Arab spring is alive, as thousands spontaneously went to Avenue Habib Bourguiba to protest the killings and sang songs from the 2011 Arab Spring revolution.

 

[treelover]

Tunisia’s health minister, Said Aidi, said the number of dead had risen on Thursday to 23 people, including 18 foreign tourists, with almost 50 people wounded. Five Tunisians were killed, including two attackers. Aidi said all the injuries came from bullet wounds, and that several victims were brought in without identity documents.

 

[krtek a houby]

The poor, innocent people. This makes me immeasurably sad

 

[teqniq]

Yes, saw this yesterday

Unfortunately I am not completely surprised by this. The are quite a large number of Tunisians fighting with IS so despite it being pretty much the only country in which the 'Arab spring' has been relatively successful. extremism is alive and well.

 

[Pickman's model]

i'm thinking of holidaying there later in the year and the bardo definitely on my itinerary

 

[teqniq]

whoops apologies, wrong person I believe

 

[krtek a houby]

So why aren't you 'immeasurably sad' with the slavery, beheadings and burnings carried out by Daesh/IS in Iraq and Syria?

I thought this thread was about the massacre in Tunisia. Apologies.

 

[teqniq]

Sorry I got you muddled up with someone else

 

[krtek a houby]

Sorry I got you muddled up with someone else

It's ok. And for the record I'm immeasurably sad with the slavery, beheadings and burnings carried out by Daesh/IS in Iraq and Syria. With all these pointless atrocities and takings of human life around the globe.

 

[Pickman's model]

Sorry I got you muddled up with someone else

i didn't know it was possible to confuse the inimitable krtek a houby with anyone else.

 

[krtek a houby]

i didn't know it was possible to confuse the inimitable krtek a houby with anyone else.

Please don't do this. Not on this thread.

 

[teqniq]

i didn't know it was possible to confuse the inimitable krtek a houby with anyone else.

Heh, I think it might have something to do with the almost-unprounouncability of the username. That'll teach me anyway.

 

[Pickman's model]

Heh, I think it might have something to do with the almost-unprounouncability of the username. That'll teach me anyway.

you didn't confuse him with wtfftw?

 

[teqniq]

you didn't confuse him with wtfftw?

No, that person who occasionally spouts semi-incoherent pro-IS bollox on the Islamic State thread.

/derail

 

[butchersapron]

whoops apologies, wrong person I believe

You're thinking of Ben Callahan the mad ginger beheader of exteter.

 

[Pickman's model]

No, that person who occasionally spouts semi-incoherent pro-IS bollox on the Islamic State thread.

/derail

quiwhatsisface

 

[Pickman's model]

You're thinking of Ben Callahan the mad ginger beheader of exteter uttoxeter.

 

[butchersapron]

Popular reaction seems to be refusing to jump in to the fundies polarisation/escalation trap.

 

[teqniq]

Yup, which is no bad thing.

 

[wtfftw]

you didn't confuse him with wtfftw?

I'm pronounceable.

 

[treelover]

These terrorists in Tunisia were targeting democracy Lina Ben Mhenni
In the increasingly chaotic Middle East, our country has enjoyed relative stability. But Islamist terrorists want to change that

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...orists-tunisia-democracy-middle-east-islamist

Some good people in the country, would love to visit it,

 

[TomUS]

Some good people in the country, would love to visit it,

In 2002 it was a pleasant, prosperous dictatorship. Afraid the tourist industry is screwed for some time to come.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm pronounceable.

i always unabbreviate you in my mind.

 

[teqniq]

UPDATED: Bomb attack on Tunisia presidential guard bus kills 14 - Region - World - Ahram Online

 

[teqniq]

This all looks pretty murky.

UAE threatens to destabilise Tunisia for not acting in Abu Dhabi's interests: Source

 

[Idris2002]

This all looks pretty murky.

UAE threatens to destabilise Tunisia for not acting in Abu Dhabi's interests: Source

It's interesting that the warning is alleged to have come from Algeria, the sleeping giant of the Arab spring.

 

[teqniq]

Indeed.

 

[elbows]

On that note, I found the piece they linked to in that story about the removal in September of the Algerian intelligence chief, who'd had the role for 25 years to be interesting.

Algerian leader replaces powerful intelligence chief

Given that the UAE are players in Libya, apparently in large part because of their anti-muslim brotherhood agenda which stems from their heated rivalry with Qatar, tales of meddling in Tunisia are easy to believe. Whether they are actually true and what form they end up taking, if any, is obviously going to be way harder to verify.