Tommy Robinson, the court case and (guffaw) 'free speech'

[bimble]

Did you see many of the earlier EDL demos? Many of them were much bigger than 7 of them! (Not saying this is the same thing, but it's a second cousin to them.)

Its probably just that i wasn't paying attention. When's the last time EDL or similar got a crowd of this sort of size together?

 

[smokedout]

There's Free Tommy graffiti on a junction near my house. I'm thinking I'll paint bomb it. Any better suggestions welcomed. I'm probably going tonight. These cunts

Someone had crossed out free and replaced it with kill on the same graffiti I saw in Camden yesterday.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Someone had crossed out free and replaced it with kill on the same graffiti I saw in Camden yesterday.

I saw that. Also they wrote it on the BTP building opposite but as you'd expect that was painted over pretty much instantly.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Its probably just that i wasn't paying attention. When's the last time EDL or similar got a crowd of this sort of size together?

Didn’t the FLA pull similar last year?

 

[bimble]

Didn’t the FLA pull similar last year?

Yep that 'march against extremism' thing, but it looked different didn't it, no st george's flags etc, i think. But yeah probably the same people.

 

[redsquirrel]

We need the Labour Party and Momentum in particular to step up their game and advertise/attend future counter demos. Was pretty bloody lonely down Whitehall yesterday, we were totally outnumbered and surrounded.

If they had any sense neither Labour nor Momentum would touch you with a bargepole.

That's what the German SPD thought in the 1930's. Relying on elections alone didn't work out so well.

And cuddling up to rape defenders will.

Not that it matters, the LP has it's own strategy and you don't figure on it.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Yep that 'march against extremism' thing, but it looked different didn't it, no st george's flags etc, i think. But yeah probably the same people.

It’s not the same organisers but some of the people attending are the same. This was big but nowhere near as big as the actual FLA marches, less than half the size.

 

[The39thStep]

It was a lefty TU thing from 2009, but wound up. I guess someone bought its old domain name and trades on it.

Its some nutty UKIP lite/alt right bloke from Swindon .Has a Youtube stream, a couple of Facebook sites and writes article on himself.

 

[Red Sky]

Its probably just that i wasn't paying attention. When's the last time EDL or similar got a crowd of this sort of size together?

The EDL peaked at about 3,000. However the number of demos esp 2009-12 was frenetic. They regularly outnumbered any opposition, mainly due to their willingness to travel.

 

[Red Sky]

Its some nutty UKIP lite/alt right bloke from Swindon .Has a Youtube stream, a couple of Facebook sites and writes article on himself.

Sargon of Akkad?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Its some nutty UKIP lite/alt right bloke from Swindon .Has a Youtube stream, a couple of Facebook sites and writes article on himself.

Not sure this is the same people. This group is headed by a young Tory and working with a number of nutjob Brexiteers, fringe Tories, libertarians etc. They also seem to have definitely got a cash injection from somewhere given that they printed a load of placards. They had some presence beyond the placards yesterday but not much in terms of numbers.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Not sure this is the same people. This group is headed by a young Tory and working with a number of nutjob Brexiteers, fringe Tories, libertarians etc. They also seem to have definitely got a cash injection from somewhere given that they printed a load of placards. They had some presence beyond the placards yesterday but not much in terms of numbers.

Are you on about Generation Identity?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Are you on about Generation Identity?

No, this is People's Charter.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

No, this is People's Charter.

Oh ok, I missed that particular sect.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Actually I saw some holding up things like dates of certain rights and assumed they were freeman on the land loons.

 

[ska invita]

About – The People's Charter Foundation
"in the spirit of the chartists" dont you know....

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Oh ok, I missed that particular sect.

The "Free Tommy" placards were theirs, and they had presence.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

The "Free Tommy" placards were theirs, and they had presence.

I saw those and didn’t bother reading below the Free Tommy bit!

 

[Pickman's model]

The "Free Tommy" placards were theirs, and they had presence.

Second picture down on the left yer man with the knights templar shirt on

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I saw those and didn’t bother reading below the Free Tommy bit!

Tbh neither did I til I was reviewing the photos and could read the small print. I just thought the people in the MBGA hats were random loons tacking on to the march.

 

[ska invita]

About – The People's Charter Foundation
"in the spirit of the chartists" dont you know....

"Over the decades, these latte liberal politicians, the state-controlled BBC media, and the hard-left university professors, have attacked our beautiful British culture. "

 

[Magnus McGinty]

The SWP of the right!

That was in response to FridgeMagnet

 

[The39thStep]

Not sure this is the same people. This group is headed by a young Tory and working with a number of nutjob Brexiteers, fringe Tories, libertarians etc. They also seem to have definitely got a cash injection from somewhere given that they printed a load of placards. They had some presence beyond the placards yesterday but not much in terms of numbers.

Luke Nash-Jones

 

[The39thStep]

Rise of the Eton EDL: the toffs behind Britain’s new hard-right
written by himself allegedly

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Luke Nash-Jones

Yes. They've got some money coming in from somewhere - no way could a tiny libertarian/freeman group support all those placards and banners on their own.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Rise of the Eton EDL: the toffs behind Britain’s new hard-right
written by himself allegedly

"Nash-Jones associates with, even goes to the pub for a pint with, the controversial John Meighan, who heads up the 70,000 man strong Football Lads Alliance"

aha

 

[The39thStep]

Yes. They've got some money coming in from somewhere - no way could a tiny libertarian/freeman group support all those placards and banners on their own.

and caps dont for get the MBGA caps 100% British made

 

[Fruitloop]

there are some awesome pictures on twatter of the Free TR dorks running into the naked bike ride.

 

[The39thStep]

"Nash-Jones associates with, even goes to the pub for a pint with, the controversial John Meighan, who heads up the 70,000 man strong Football Lads Alliance"

aha

Its alleged that he wrote that article himself trying to make out how well connected he is. They had a small contingent on the DFLA Manchester march. A mate of mine sent me some photos and a link. His Facebook page has photos of him and Tommy Robinson. I think hes an opportunist with some money, a social media presence trying to make a reuptation for himself more than representing any real forces.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Its alleged that he wrote that article himself trying to make out how well connected he is. They had a small contingent on the DFLA Manchester march. A mate of mine sent me some photos and a link. His Facebook page has photos of him and Tommy Robinson. I think hes an opportunist with some money, a social media presence trying to make a reuptation for himself more than representing any real forces.

Well, they certainly had success handing out placards. I'm afraid I didn't check where they were coming from but they were all over the place.

People with funding do find it easier to make connections.