Titanic tourist sub missing
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
If anyone still has a lingering 'billionaires are people too' thing going on, they should read this. Yep, there was no doubt a (mercifully short?) period of terror and there are grieving families for the titanic lot, but every other dimension of both stories shows a world of inequality, obsessions with the lives of the rich and a fucked up media.
www.theguardian.com
Disbelief and anger among Greek shipwreck victims’ relatives as millions spent on Titan rescue effort
Disparity between rescue responses has sparked debate in Pakistan about double standards
Cid
Proper break this time
If anyone still has a lingering 'billionaires are people too' thing going on, they should read this. Yep, there was no doubt a (mercifully short?) period of terror and there are grieving families for the titanic lot, but every other dimension of both stories shows a world of inequality, obsessions with the lives of the rich and a fucked up media.
Disbelief and anger among Greek shipwreck victims’ relatives as millions spent on Titan rescue effort
Disparity between rescue responses has sparked debate in Pakistan about double standards
They won't have known anything (on the period of terror aspect). Human response is on the order of around 1/4 second. Critical failure of the hull was likely milliseconds... I was watching a something earlier (Scott Manley for all the Kerbal nerds) and he put it quite well; 'you go instantly from biology to physics'.
What I think paints a starker picture here is that it's increasingly clear that the US military and some other actors were fully aware that a critical failure was a near certainty... They had picked up on the implosion, and noted it at the time. Also iirc the support vessel heard it. There's still some justification for a search I suppose in that you can't be sure what causes a specific noise... But as I understand it the wreckage was discovered pretty much as soon as the French rocked up with decent kit and dropped an ROV where they'd been descending. That said we are talking about different things... The vessels involved in the sub search aren't based in the mediterranean. The deaths of migrants are entirely about political will, and the policies of local coastguard.
MysteryGuest
beyond boring and interesting
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mojo pixy
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And making up stupid shit like How do they make a cash transfer when they're at the bottom of the oceanyes that's exactly what she said.
You can always tell when someone has no convincing argument when they invent strawman stuff like that.
Swarbrick the knob does that kind of thing all the time tbh, he's one of the worst presenters on LBC for lazy reactive bollocks (and that's up against some fairly stiff competition)
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Johnny Vodka
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Five men in a tiny submarine is more Roger Corman.
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equationgirl
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This BBC article is interesting:
So it appears the CEO piloted the sub on every journey it made, using a game controller. To me that says the guy had issues with delegation and control. Hope the keyman insurance will pay out.
But there's some interesting snippets about the approach to engineering design - the non-standard design, the use of non-standard materials but at the same time the use of off the shelf components in unintended ways.
To me this all speaks of an attitude 'you can't tell me what to do' and a desire to get a working design no matter the cost or safety.
If the hull imploded but not on the first trip this thing every did, it suggests some kind of fatigue failure.
Titanic sub firm: A maverick, rule-breaking founder and a tragic end
Stockton Rush wanted to be known as an innovator. It didn't seem to matter how he did it.
www.bbc.co.uk
So it appears the CEO piloted the sub on every journey it made, using a game controller. To me that says the guy had issues with delegation and control. Hope the keyman insurance will pay out.
But there's some interesting snippets about the approach to engineering design - the non-standard design, the use of non-standard materials but at the same time the use of off the shelf components in unintended ways.
To me this all speaks of an attitude 'you can't tell me what to do' and a desire to get a working design no matter the cost or safety.
If the hull imploded but not on the first trip this thing every did, it suggests some kind of fatigue failure.
i would imagine the hull had creaked and groaned its way through previous trips and he probably told himself that wiki materials suggested carbon fibre was strong and that was enough reassurance for a psychotic free market elf and safety gorn mad mind set. innovator my arse.This BBC article is interesting:
Titanic sub firm: A maverick, rule-breaking founder and a tragic end
Stockton Rush wanted to be known as an innovator. It didn't seem to matter how he did it.www.bbc.co.uk
So it appears the CEO piloted the sub on every journey it made, using a game controller. To me that says the guy had issues with delegation and control. Hope the keyman insurance will pay out.
But there's some interesting snippets about the approach to engineering design - the non-standard design, the use of non-standard materials but at the same time the use of off the shelf components in unintended ways.
To me this all speaks of an attitude 'you can't tell me what to do' and a desire to get a working design no matter the cost or safety.
If the hull imploded but not on the first trip this thing every did, it suggests some kind of fatigue failure.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Half way through. It's bloody fantastic. Very much of it's time, but that's part of it's charm. Brilliant reporting...
Ming
I shot a man in Reno...
I wonder what he's paid? Quite a lot i imagine.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
1. By text as that's how they communicated with the sub.And making up stupid shit like How do they make a cash transfer when they're at the bottom of the ocean
2. Leave your American express gold card with someone in the ship for use in emergencies.
gosub
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gosub
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That's enough of this anti woke nonsense. If his death trap wants to identify as a submarine
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
It used to identify as a play station 4 from what I can tell
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
perhaps a Gameboy that wished it was a PS4.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
There won't be any remains to gawp at at that pressure.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
I mean, a fucking games controller? That's his idea of innovation? This is a deep sea submersible vehicle, there's plenty of firms he could have worked with on a custom design if he really wanted it to be special and unique. It's not a fucking go cart.
I sincerely hope that all the families involved sue the bejesus out of Oceangate, the CEO was arrogant and reckless and as a direct result oeople are dead.
I sincerely hope that all the families involved sue the bejesus out of Oceangate, the CEO was arrogant and reckless and as a direct result oeople are dead.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Well not now there won't be, 110 years after the event. There will however be inorganic remnants of their lives perhaps. Those should not be disturbed.There won't be any remains to gawp at at that pressure.
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