Spion
I hear ya
Agreed
Those Were the Days...
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Spion
I hear ya
Interesting to try and sort it out tho. Subjective feelings of enjoyment or whatever are bound to be a common theme of any music. Whether that music is truly innovative and to what extent it represents new social trends etc should be something one could argue a good case for, like any phenomenon in history
LOL
Ultimately, my point is/was that you could watch prime time, or late night Friday TV back in the late 70's and get a full on, politically driven, non-commercial pop song from nowhere being broadcast to millions.
The other point was/is that pop seemed to evolve so rapidly during the late 70's. So many genrés all mixed up together, but still clearly defined in their own style. They were cool times. Bands from nowhere with no, or very little backing got air time on mainstream BBC radio and TV. It wasn't uncommon to hear John Peel playing a mates of a mates of a mates latest record. Still happens I guess, but the commercial world has taken far to much control and stagnated the pop scene as far as the vast majority audience is concerned.
Whatever, Art is the new Rock'N'Roll anyway
I'm off to make music with the kids.
The other point was/is that pop seemed to evolve so rapidly during the late 70's. So many genrés all mixed up together, but still clearly defined in their own style. They were cool times. Bands from nowhere with no, or very little backing got air time on mainstream BBC radio and TV. It wasn't uncommon to hear John Peel playing a mates of a mates of a mates latest record. Still happens I guess, but the commercial world has taken far to much control and stagnated the pop scene as far as the vast majority audience is concerned.
Whatever, Art is the new Rock'N'Roll anyway
I'm off to make music with the kids.
Non-commercial and politically driven? Really? The very fact that a piece of music is broadcast on prime time TV in the first place is enough to indicate that it is in fact commercial.
Perhaps you could give us an example?
Ultimately, my point is/was that you could watch prime time, or late night Friday TV back in the late 70's and get a full on, politically driven, non-commercial pop song from nowhere being broadcast to millions.
The other point was/is that pop seemed to evolve so rapidly during the late 70's. So many genrés all mixed up together, but still clearly defined in their own style. They were cool times. Bands from nowhere with no, or very little backing got air time on mainstream BBC radio and TV. It wasn't uncommon to hear John Peel playing a mates of a mates of a mates latest record. Still happens I guess, but the commercial world has taken far to much control and stagnated the pop scene as far as the vast majority audience is concerned.
Whatever, Art is the new Rock'N'Roll anyway
I'm off to make music with the kids.
You're not actually listening to anything people are saying, are you?
No change there then.
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
Been there, done that. Except my school exercise book was green and it was 1983 and it was a Tuesday lunchtime with that twat Gary Davies.
And FWIW I think 78-84 shits over all musical periods before and since. If he was better looking, I'd be a Simon Reynolds groupie.
You're not actually listening to anything people are saying, are you?
No change there then.
Hello!
I'm listening and considering the points being made. How about yourself?
I don't buy this. There was a time when the BBC was not a commercial station, so how does a late night appearance on a late 70's arts/culture/pop show make a piece commercial?
Granted - the charts have always been about sales. But, there was a time when music with no great sales potential made prime time non-commercial TV simply on it's political/cultural value.
The point I'm trying to make, when you look at the charts quoted from the late 70's is that it wasn't all monotone meaningless dross spluttered out for financial gain. The money is always the driving force of any industry, but there was room for a bit more of an alternative then. There doesn't seem to be now. As others have said; you have to know where to look to find it.
I guess an obvious example would be the John Cooper Clarke mentioned earlier. In the days when there were just Three TV channels broadcasting to millions he made air time.
Yes. And, so what. I've read other peoples opinions. Considered them. Looked at mainstream music culture today and come to the same conclusion; there was better stuff, more diversity, more substance to everyday pop music in the late 70's than there is now.
Yes - there is a very diverse scene today, but it doesn't reach the masses. You have to know where to find it. A 1978 pop programme would have been watched by people from all backgrounds. Today, such programmes (or, those that have replaced such programming) only reach a fraction of the audience in terms of size and their a much narrower, targeted audience. No chance of stumbling upon new, innovative, politically motivated pop music on prime time broadcast telly today?
Anyway, I guess you're right. You always are no matter which name you choose to post under.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
((((stanley)))
do not go gently into that dark night, rage rage against the dying...
oh, no, he's gone.
do not go gently into that dark night, rage rage against the dying...
oh, no, he's gone.
Who wants to live in Chicken Town FFS. Getting fat and bored and lazy and unhealthy and unmotivated.
Was it a repeat of a very old recording, or something new? Is he trying to cash in on a revival, or summat?
I still say the majority of music shoved down faces today is more crap than it was.
Fuck off with your poxy hugs you cunt.
I'm still here
e2a; OK. Now I'm gone. This is boring.
Sweaty Betty
Hemo rising!
I agree mate, cant say much for the telly, but the music is indeed more shit today imo.....
bring back alphaville
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
I think that's a clear victory to the rationalists, eh?
Sweaty Betty
Hemo rising!
no victory, just opinion- they are never wrong
Yep, that's us told. The twin collossi of Sweaty and Drunken Stanley have certainly put the kibosh on my arguments.
Sweaty Betty
Hemo rising!
Oh go do one-- aint read the rest of your wank filled thread, just replied to the OP and his latest post that had popped up as i was about to post....
Spion
I hear ya
How old are you?
