Remember when pop actually meant summat?
Those Were the Days...
- Thread starter Stanley Edwards
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Remember when pop actually meant summat?
imposs1904
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The Stranglers were pop? 
The Stranglers were pop?
Yeah.
They were on TOTP and everything.
What ever happened to all those?
That's pop.
A Dashing Blade
Takes horses to water but can't make donkeys drink
No . . . those were the days!
No-one, no-one can tell me that the UK charts will ever be as good as they were from 1977 - 1980. Loads of great stuff with substance and a very fast turnaround. New and interesting records seemed to appear by the dozen each week. Now the charts are often stagnant with meaningless crap.
Of course there was crap around and there is some good pop about today. It's just the lack of any meaning that makes me a sad old bastard.
Nothing wrong with remembering your youth through rose tinted glasses. Things were better back then. Even the computers.
The kids of today are fucking lightweights
My point exactly.
1 1 John Travolta & Olivia Newton John Summer Nights
2 2 Boney M Rasputin
3 4 John Travolta Sandy
4 3 Dean Friedman Lucky Stars
5 12 Donna Summer MaCarthur Park
6 6 E.L.O. Sweet Talking Woman
7 9 Boomtown Rats Rat Trap
8 5 Rose Royce Love Don't Live Here Anymore
9 14 Jacksons Blame It On The Boogie
10 7 Leo Sayer I Can't Stop Lovin' You
11 13 Crystal Gayle Talking In Your Sleep
12 11 Third World Now That We've Found Love
13 21 Public Image Limited Publuic Image
14 16 Buzzcocks Ever Fallen In Love With Someone
15 29 Three Degrees Givin' Up Givin' In
16 17 Sham 69 Hurry Up Harry
17 15 Mick Jackson Blame It On the Boogie
18 26 Father Abraham & The Smurfs Dippety Day
19 28 Frankie Miller Darlin'
20 19 Smokie Mexican Girl
21 10 Sylvester You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real)
22 34 O'Jays Brandy
23 8 Frankie Valli Grease
24 18 Dooleys A Rose Has To Die
25 25 Jam Down In The Tube Station At Midnight
26 27 Rolling Stones Respectable
27 NEW Queen Bicycle Race / Fat Bottomed Girls
28 NEW Dan Hartman Instant Replay
29 31 Jonathan King One For You One For Me
30 40 Chris Rea (Fool) If You Think It's Over
31 22 Exile Kiss You All Over
32 NEW Elton John Part Time Love
33 35 Earth Wind And Fire Got To Get You Into My Life
34 20 Abba Summernight City
35 38 Olympic Runners Get It While You Can
36 NEW Hawkwind Silver Machine
37 33 Black Sabbath Hard Road
38 NEW Undertones Teenage Kicks
39 30 Ivor Biggun The Winker's Song
40 23 10 C.C. Dreadlock Holiday
Some shit. Some quality. But, a varied and diverse range with a couple of classics. A random search.
Cunt
Well we've ended up with a different chart, but my point still stands. If you can't be arsed to find good music, it means you're a lazy fucker, not that music is worse than it used to be.
Another sad, bitter old cunt railing at the world cos he doesn't understand it any more.
Another sad, bitter old cunt railing at the world cos he doesn't understand it any more.
here's the singles chart for this week in 1977
Edgy stuff there, Stanley....
I'm specifically talking from the second half of 77 - end of 80.
Well we've ended up with a different chart, but my point still stands. If you can't be arsed to find good music, it means you're a lazy fucker, not that music is worse than it used to be.
Another sad, bitter old cunt railing at the world cos he doesn't understand it any more.
I'm finding and making plenty of good music. My problem is with the bland crap in the charts today.
I understand everything
Keep on moving those goalposts and missing that point
Think I've made my point clear enough. If you can't see it, then I guess you're missing something
Why? You're not the demographic - hardly anyone is, these days. Why do you give a fuck what people are buying in Tesco? Does it tell you anything about the music being made today, in any useful sense?
I understand everything
Anyway, how DARE you be posting on here about the charts! Don't you know there are children dying in Iraq every day while you're here doing NOTHING!! Nothing, I tell you!! CUNTS
OK, here's this week in 1980
Three or four classics in there, but mostly wank
Where's this golden age you're talking about, Stanley?
Three or, Four classics! Exactly.
The Specials, Joe Jackson, The Ramones, plus plus plus.
I think you've just confirmed my belief.
Think I've made my point clear enough. If you can't see it, then I guess you're missing something
No, Stanley. Your point is wrong, for several reasons:
a) there is no golden age in charts
b) charts aren't generally where you find quality music anyway
c) THERE ARE CHILDREN DYING EVERY DAY IN IRAQ!!!
I've confirmed fuck all, dumbass
You have agreed with my argument. Unwittingly looking to make an argument for arguments sake you've just ended up arguing for my original point.
Who's the dumbass?
Go and get drunk and insult everybody then - that'll help
You know, I never do that IRL. The internet is a good place to vent a little steam occasionally. People shouldn't take it so seriously.
I have a friend here who laughs whenever I take the piss IRL. Try taking the piss on the internet and she's deeply offended. Strange.
Anyway, enough twaddle. That was a shit argument.
The charts used to be better than they are now.
All agreed? Good
1 1 Special A.K.A. Too Much Too Young (E.P.)
2 10 Kenny Rogers Coward Of The County
3 4 Nolans I'm In The Mood For Dancing
4 3 Madness My Girl
5 5 Joe Jackson It's Different For Girls
6 7 Styx Babe
7 2 Pretenders Brass In Pocket
8 14 Boomtown Rats Someone's Looking At You
9 6 Billy Preston & Syreeta With You I'm Born Again
10 9 Booker T And The MGs Green Onions
11 12 Regents 7Teen
12 15 Jon And Vangelis I Hear You Now
13 20 New Musik Living By Numbers
14 8 K.C. & The Sunshine Band Please Don't Go
15 40 Keith Michell Captain Beaky
16 11 Dollar I Wanna Hold Your Hand
17 13 Dr. Hook Better Love Next Time
18 37 Whispers And The Beat Goes On
19 18 Sheila B. Devotion Spacer
20 30 Queen Save Me
21 29 Selecter Three Minute Hero
22 19 Azymuth Jazz Carnival
23 27 Rupert Holmes Escape (The Pina Colada Song)
24 22 Matchbox Buzz Buzz A Diddle It
25 36 Ramones Baby I Love You
26 NEW Shadows Riders In The Sky
27 NEW Cliff Richard Carrie
28 35 Buggles Living In The Plastic Age
29 23 Kool And The Gang Too Hot
30 31 Jefferson Starship Jane
31 21 Bee Gees Spirits (Having Flown)
32 25 Positive Force We Got The Funk
33 NEW John Foxx Underpass
34 16 Clash London Calling
35 NEW Michael Jackson Rock With You
36 32 Sad Cafe Strange Little Girl
37 17 Beat Tears Of A Clown
38 34 Suzi Quatro Mama's Boy
39 NEW Brass Construction Music Makes You Feel Like Dancing
40 NEW Dexy's Midnight Runners Dance Stance
2 10 Kenny Rogers Coward Of The County
3 4 Nolans I'm In The Mood For Dancing
4 3 Madness My Girl
5 5 Joe Jackson It's Different For Girls
6 7 Styx Babe
7 2 Pretenders Brass In Pocket
8 14 Boomtown Rats Someone's Looking At You
9 6 Billy Preston & Syreeta With You I'm Born Again
10 9 Booker T And The MGs Green Onions
11 12 Regents 7Teen
12 15 Jon And Vangelis I Hear You Now
13 20 New Musik Living By Numbers
14 8 K.C. & The Sunshine Band Please Don't Go
15 40 Keith Michell Captain Beaky
16 11 Dollar I Wanna Hold Your Hand
17 13 Dr. Hook Better Love Next Time
18 37 Whispers And The Beat Goes On
19 18 Sheila B. Devotion Spacer
20 30 Queen Save Me
21 29 Selecter Three Minute Hero
22 19 Azymuth Jazz Carnival
23 27 Rupert Holmes Escape (The Pina Colada Song)
24 22 Matchbox Buzz Buzz A Diddle It
25 36 Ramones Baby I Love You
26 NEW Shadows Riders In The Sky
27 NEW Cliff Richard Carrie
28 35 Buggles Living In The Plastic Age
29 23 Kool And The Gang Too Hot
30 31 Jefferson Starship Jane
31 21 Bee Gees Spirits (Having Flown)
32 25 Positive Force We Got The Funk
33 NEW John Foxx Underpass
34 16 Clash London Calling
35 NEW Michael Jackson Rock With You
36 32 Sad Cafe Strange Little Girl
37 17 Beat Tears Of A Clown
38 34 Suzi Quatro Mama's Boy
39 NEW Brass Construction Music Makes You Feel Like Dancing
40 NEW Dexy's Midnight Runners Dance Stance
Yes. It did mean more. Point taken that the charts aren't what they used to be, and The Stranglers weren't a real reflection of what was going on at the time (although they did make some bloody good pop songs). However, with politically motivated bands regularly charting and making prime time TV appearances to huge audiences - pop did mean much more back then.
Like you say; the chart demographic has changed and the world has changed. TV isn't the force it used to be for one, but where can the equivalent of acts like John Copper Clarke, Stiff Little Fingers etc find such large audiences today? Pop was much more back then.
I'd wager that almost all will agree that Special AKA at number 1 is the best thing bolded.
