Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
They play the most boring game I'm the world. And get paid too much for it.
Things you really hate about the Premier League
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The moving, flashing adverts at the side of the pitch. They've more or less ruined Match of the Day for me now. It is extraordinarily rude as we're set up to turn our attention to movement. I find it more or less impossible to ignore them, which is of course the point of them moving. It's contempt for the viewer.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Well obviously ticket prices. Season ticket prices at Premier League clubs are ridiculous. In fact they're ridiculous across the board (A tenner to see a non-league game or 30 quid to watch a Championship game is also much too expensive I feel), but the rate of inflation-smashing increases at OT/Anfield and London clubs is eye-watering. Stadiums increasingly full of older fans and the middle classes, creating duller atmospheres all-round.
The other correct answer is John Terry.
The other correct answer is John Terry.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
25 quid to watch Orient!
I don't even consider the PL when I'm planning going to a game. Start with the championship sides and work downwards.
I don't even consider the PL when I'm planning going to a game. Start with the championship sides and work downwards.
League 2 sides feel they have a right to charge so much for their games when its absolutely ridiculous. A season ticket for me at the Hamlet costs the same as 4 tickets to see AFC Wimbledon. Where's that logic?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The reason all clubs always give is that they have to charge that because they're ambitious and if the fans share their ambition, they'll fork out.
There is also the knock-on from PL tv money, which has inflated wages at the top and that inflation has knocked right down the divisions. In the second division
skyscraper101
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Scarfs with half a team each on them
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
But all English football is overpriced. A season ticket at Hamlet would get you one for 8 or 9 teams in the first division of the Spanish league and (I believe) almost any German club.
Going back to the PL, I think it's the post-Sky era punditry I really hate. What happened to commentating as background to the action? A Barry Davies soundtrack that just used the voice as a means of delivering tension to the scene for example. I miss that.
I couldn't give a fuck about Paul Merson co-commentating about systems or some halfwit rambling on about goalkeeper "distribution". It's not a deep enough science for technical analysis to be that interesting.
I wish they'd just shut up, or at least only have one commentator. Sky managed to Americanise coverage when the game didn't need it.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
All sports are going like that. In cricket now they have three commentators. Gone is the understated charm of the likes of Richie Benaud.
skyscraper101
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There has been this tendency to over analyse every strategic play like its NFL or NBA when football just isn't played to that degree of set piece strategies. Fair enough for corners or free kicks but in-same it's way OTT sometimes.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
I agree with you, but even if it was like that it doesn't make the analysis interesting anyway. The other peeve I have is when the commentator has been saving up a scripted line for weeks and months and then unleashes it like a dirty fart when his desired scorer delivers. Tyldesley was the very worst at this.
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hiraethified
Yep. Fucking awful things and a constant irritating distraction for anyone trying to watch the game (but hey! that's what they're designed for!).
As you say, it really puts the viewer in their place. Adverts come first, football second.
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hiraethified
How they ever sold that ludicrous idea to fans remains a mystery to me.Scarfs with half a team each on them
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
It's because of the very thing that prompted you to start the thread I think. The idea that it's a consumerist "event". The scarf is your Eiffel Tower fridge-magnet to prove you've been there and look at from time to time. The game itself is secondary.
Voley
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That one with the fucking sausage dog gets right on my tits.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Murray Walker was relatively clueless about F1, compared to the team of expert driver-bores they've got now, but he was an amazing commentator. You need to inspire emotion in the viewer, not endlessly tell them stuff.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
The thing I don't quite understand about this (and I know it's true) is how the demand works out? In that the big clubs in the UK are massively oversubscribed even at the current absurd prices. If the like of Man U/Liverpool/Arsenal dropped their prices significantly it would probably be even harder to get a ticket than now. So how does that work in terms of teams like, say, Bayern or Dortmund?
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Are they fucking awful? The atmosphere at Leicester is arguably the best in the country at the moment and it's probably in no small part due to the fact that the more family-esque attendees are capable of contributing to the noise without feeling intimidated.
The reality is that the make up of football fans has changed from terrace culture. There's loads of women and kids, which is obviously a good thing. It can be intimidating being part of a football crowd, and the clackers alleviate that. Net result, a team defying all the odds...?
Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather 32k people knew every song and chanted heartily, but that's not how it is any more. Better a slightly plastic atmosphere than no atmosphere whatsoever, or fucking booing every minor disappointment. See Goodison Park as an example. Shocking support.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Leicester seem to be changing the script on that one.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The media obsession with Man Utd . Some commentators voices get louder and more excited if they mention their players names. Not sure at this point in the season if it is more a case of hoping to wake them up rather than the undiluted adulation that has normally been the case.
skyscraper101
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Sky Sports coverage. "Super Sunday" brought to you by Ford and that Moloko track everybody should've long forgotten.
Plus...Live Premier League adverts. Lads ads. For Lads. Lager, Ray Winstone's head. etc.
Plus...Live Premier League adverts. Lads ads. For Lads. Lager, Ray Winstone's head. etc.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Used to be the top three at one time
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Sky Sports coverage. "Super Sunday" brought to you by Ford and that Moloko track everybody should've long forgotten.
Plus...Live Premier League adverts. Lads ads. For Lads. Lager, Ray Winstone's head. etc.
Ray Winstones fucking head and lad adverts for lager and betting
skyscraper101
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And WKD. Lads drink WKD. Because they're LADS, who watch premiership football with their lad mates.
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hiraethified
Ah, so Leicester's success is down to those stupid paper rattles? Right. But if that's the kind of corporate-approved, laid-on atmosphere you like, then soak it up. I'd rather watch a team with less success and less US-style manufactured support, myself. Each to their own.
Oh, and if Leicester weren't dishing out these awful things and your rivals were, would you be so enthusiastically endorsing their use now? Like fuck, I suspect.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
Any talk whatsoever of "brand."
Super whingeing by managers about refereeing decisions.
The fact you get asked to leave if you give one of your overpaid, underperforming "heroes" a bit of stick. You've paid your hard-earned!
Corporate jolly boxes only occupied when a big team are visiting.
The vitiation of the FA Cup final - once the most watched live domestic sporting event in the world.
The "discovery" by the middle-class of football (ie the prem) in the 1990s, which diluted it from a core social tribal activity of community and belonging into a Yankee-style consumer entertainment.
I could (and probably will) go on...
Super whingeing by managers about refereeing decisions.
The fact you get asked to leave if you give one of your overpaid, underperforming "heroes" a bit of stick. You've paid your hard-earned!
Corporate jolly boxes only occupied when a big team are visiting.
The vitiation of the FA Cup final - once the most watched live domestic sporting event in the world.
The "discovery" by the middle-class of football (ie the prem) in the 1990s, which diluted it from a core social tribal activity of community and belonging into a Yankee-style consumer entertainment.
I could (and probably will) go on...
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hiraethified
Multiple replays of the manager's 'reaction' to on-pitch incidents. When I go to a gamer I don't watch the manages, so why the fuck do we have to say their stupid faces every time something happens?
Oh - and this really fucks me off - the sanitisation of the game. If there's any off the pitch aggro, or a streaker, or a protest, for example, you can guarantee that the cameras will be nowhere near the action, and if there's a ruck going on (or a lively protest), all we'll get is some twat commentator droning on about how this is not good for the game etc etc.
Oh - and this really fucks me off - the sanitisation of the game. If there's any off the pitch aggro, or a streaker, or a protest, for example, you can guarantee that the cameras will be nowhere near the action, and if there's a ruck going on (or a lively protest), all we'll get is some twat commentator droning on about how this is not good for the game etc etc.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Ah, so Leicester's success is down to those stupid paper rattles? Right. But if that's the kind of corporate-approved, laid-on atmosphere you like, then soak it up. I'd rather watch a team with less success and less US-style manufactured support, myself. Each to their own.
Oh, and if Leicester weren't dishing out these awful things and your rivals were, would you be so enthusiastically endorsing their use now? Like fuck, I suspect.
I'm sure I'd join you in your contempt were it another team, but it'd be contempt tinged with envy.
I don't think our success is all down to the atmosphere and our exceptional away support shows that our atmosphere isn't all down to the clackers, but I think these things play their part in our rapid rise. There's a carnival atmosphere at every game. It's a happy, buzzy place to play with a wall of noise. The players lap that up.
Again, give me that over a tonne of other morgue-like grounds any day.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Cunts with selfie sticks,
Cunts with drums,
Price of match tickets,
Cheating and diving,
Sky tv,
commentators having orgasms when a goal is scored,
ex players and out of work manager taking bundles of cash for stating the obvious and talking shit.
Cunts with drums,
Price of match tickets,
Cheating and diving,
Sky tv,
commentators having orgasms when a goal is scored,
ex players and out of work manager taking bundles of cash for stating the obvious and talking shit.
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