The weather in the USA...
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Graymalkin
Ironclad Activist
East of Kingston
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
Yip - just saw your profile saying that.... opps
We are north of Cornwall, so we are getting the same weather.
Tomorrow night it is only going to go down to -8 - hubby thinks we should pitch a tent and enjoy the heatwave.
But, after a day of warm weather, we are back down into the deep freeze.
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
Ottawa could see coldest temperature in 26 years
Environment Canada is predicting temperatures will drop to between -27 C and -34 C Tuesday night, with wind chill values making it feel as cold as -40.
ottawa.ctvnews.ca
Graymalkin
Ironclad Activist
Canada. Eastern Ontario on the St Lawrence River.on Thames?
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
It's raining iguanas in Florida. Poor iguanas. 
www.theguardian.com
Cold iguanas could drop from trees in Florida, US weather service warns
The lizards aren’t dead but merely immobilised when temperatures go under 10C, weather bureau says
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
A third of Americans are already facing above-average warming
Temperatures in 499 counties across west, north-east and upper midwest US have already breached 1.5C (2.7F)
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
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A third of Americans are already facing above-average warming
Temperatures in 499 counties across west, north-east and upper midwest US have already breached 1.5C (2.7F)
Where I live, we have moved from growing region 4 to region 5a.
ska invita
back on the other side
Kids will look back on this as the good old days ... California is doomed (short of some solar powered desalination miracle)
for 8 minutes. I do more than that for my half dozen tomatoes.
Ho ho, I have a large number of south Cali forum friends who, to a man or woman, consider an English style 'cottage garden' to be the ne plus ultra of horticultural style. All those Ventura County verdant lawns...
Ho ho, I have a large number of south Cali forum friends who, to a man or woman, consider an English style 'cottage garden' to be the ne plus ultra of horticultural style. All those Ventura County verdant lawns...
Cid
Proper break this time
Yeah, if some tiny scrap of joy can be scraped back from this it's in picturing the faces of people who plant appropriate to where they live, and of those in the neighbourhood associations who tell them they can't.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Temps there have ranged around 110F. It hasn't been that hot here, but it's been over 100 F over several days and we expect another 10 days of excessive heat. At those temps, it's not just cattle that die.
ska invita
back on the other side
California is now 'officially' in a megadrought
www.sfchronicle.com
doomed
California slips into its worst mega-drought in 1,200 years — it’s partly our fault
The period from 2000 to the present is the driest 22-year stretch since A.D. 800, largely...
doomed
story
Changing the facts
This story about Lake Mead is huge.
I’ve been fossicking around to get a better idea about it.
Water levels are dropping precipitously (pardon the pun…. my brain supplied it without my intentional awareness, but I quite like it so I’m leaving it in) but not actually faster than they were: the lake is more narrow at the bottom than at the top (valley & peaks) so the same volume of loss at the surface goes down in smaller increments than it does at the narrower levels. Now that it’s happening across a narrower area, the speed of the loss is more obvious. Sunken boats, and barrels containing bodies decades old, have been exposed. Wildlife is struggling. Fish are getting too hot and crowded. Land animals are finding it more tricky to access water.
Meanwhile, great foolishness of humans continues apace. Rich white Americans are pissed off that their recreational activities are being curtailed. They’re queuing for up to 4 hours in the desert sun, in their air conditioned cars, to launch their leisure boats and jet-toys into the lake from fewer and fewer access points. Lots of launching sites and marinas are now so far above the waterline that they’ve been abandoned. See also the fools who are taking helicopter trips over the lake or driving their SUVs out to take a look at the wreck of the lake, like disaster tourists, and getting stuck in the sand and mud, then revving their motors to fuck to try to get out. One elderly couple died in their car cos they were out of phone signal range, out of water, and too far out to walk for help. But they don’t seem able to make the connection between what they’re doing (burning fuel, using up resources) and the thing they’re ogling at and bitching about.
There is still some chat about “when the lake recovers, how long will it take to replenish when the rains come” without grasping that it’s more likely that this lake will disappear completely and irrevocably within a few decades at most.
Hoover Dam has reduced operational output by about 33%, but so far that’s had little impact on users. As a result, no one is really taking this seriously and plenty of news outlets are busy reassuring people that despite the drought, everything is fine, everything is fine.
Conspiraloons are saying it’s a plot. Can’t be arsed to dig into this but some YouTubers are dropping massive hints and “clues” for those in their gang and directing them to other platforms to read more. Something about water being extracted deliberately In order to…….
Preppers are gleefully prepping for some kind of “see I told you so” thing that’s currently being predicted for the end of July.
Even if this decades long drought breaks tomorrow in spectacular fashion (it won’t) it will take many years for the lake to refill, at a time when those who rely on it are taking out larger volumes of water than ever before.
One of the issues that will always impact Lake Mead is that places up stream from where Lake Mead now want their local water for themselves. So inflow will always be less than it was, regardless of rainfall and snowmelt (another water source for the region that is also diminished).
There are (were) three intake points on Lake Mead. Two of them are far above the waterline now (Intake 1 is more than 1000 feet higher than the water) so they're now relying on one intake point for all the water that is taken out for human use.
Lake Mead is the largest reservoir in the USA. Right now, something like 20,000,000 people rely on Lake Mead for almost all their water, including home, work, industry, agriculture, everything. If you include all the states that take water from Lake Mead (Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming and even parts of northern Mexico) something like 40 million people use Lake Mead water. There is no contingency plan.
If America does something about this or just allows this disaster to develop, their response and actions (or lack thereof) will set the tone for whatever happens next. This climate crisis is picking up pace now. It looks like the River Nile is also drying up. The Rhine is in trouble too, and that will have further impact on shipping and consequently access to goods and increased prices. I’ll continue to recycle, reduce waste, re-use, walk, not fly, yadda yadda because I’m not an arsehole. (Using the tumble drier rather than a washing line because “it’s too hot to go outside” ffs.) But when I look at this story and all the other shit that‘s going on I really do feel like we’ve reached the threshold and there’s no way back. The only thing we can do now is go on, try to limiit the fall out, and rebuild better.
I’ve been fossicking around to get a better idea about it.
Water levels are dropping precipitously (pardon the pun…. my brain supplied it without my intentional awareness, but I quite like it so I’m leaving it in) but not actually faster than they were: the lake is more narrow at the bottom than at the top (valley & peaks) so the same volume of loss at the surface goes down in smaller increments than it does at the narrower levels. Now that it’s happening across a narrower area, the speed of the loss is more obvious. Sunken boats, and barrels containing bodies decades old, have been exposed. Wildlife is struggling. Fish are getting too hot and crowded. Land animals are finding it more tricky to access water.
Meanwhile, great foolishness of humans continues apace. Rich white Americans are pissed off that their recreational activities are being curtailed. They’re queuing for up to 4 hours in the desert sun, in their air conditioned cars, to launch their leisure boats and jet-toys into the lake from fewer and fewer access points. Lots of launching sites and marinas are now so far above the waterline that they’ve been abandoned. See also the fools who are taking helicopter trips over the lake or driving their SUVs out to take a look at the wreck of the lake, like disaster tourists, and getting stuck in the sand and mud, then revving their motors to fuck to try to get out. One elderly couple died in their car cos they were out of phone signal range, out of water, and too far out to walk for help. But they don’t seem able to make the connection between what they’re doing (burning fuel, using up resources) and the thing they’re ogling at and bitching about.
There is still some chat about “when the lake recovers, how long will it take to replenish when the rains come” without grasping that it’s more likely that this lake will disappear completely and irrevocably within a few decades at most.
Hoover Dam has reduced operational output by about 33%, but so far that’s had little impact on users. As a result, no one is really taking this seriously and plenty of news outlets are busy reassuring people that despite the drought, everything is fine, everything is fine.
Conspiraloons are saying it’s a plot. Can’t be arsed to dig into this but some YouTubers are dropping massive hints and “clues” for those in their gang and directing them to other platforms to read more. Something about water being extracted deliberately In order to…….
Preppers are gleefully prepping for some kind of “see I told you so” thing that’s currently being predicted for the end of July.Even if this decades long drought breaks tomorrow in spectacular fashion (it won’t) it will take many years for the lake to refill, at a time when those who rely on it are taking out larger volumes of water than ever before.
One of the issues that will always impact Lake Mead is that places up stream from where Lake Mead now want their local water for themselves. So inflow will always be less than it was, regardless of rainfall and snowmelt (another water source for the region that is also diminished).
There are (were) three intake points on Lake Mead. Two of them are far above the waterline now (Intake 1 is more than 1000 feet higher than the water) so they're now relying on one intake point for all the water that is taken out for human use.
Lake Mead is the largest reservoir in the USA. Right now, something like 20,000,000 people rely on Lake Mead for almost all their water, including home, work, industry, agriculture, everything. If you include all the states that take water from Lake Mead (Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming and even parts of northern Mexico) something like 40 million people use Lake Mead water. There is no contingency plan.
If America does something about this or just allows this disaster to develop, their response and actions (or lack thereof) will set the tone for whatever happens next. This climate crisis is picking up pace now. It looks like the River Nile is also drying up. The Rhine is in trouble too, and that will have further impact on shipping and consequently access to goods and increased prices. I’ll continue to recycle, reduce waste, re-use, walk, not fly, yadda yadda because I’m not an arsehole. (Using the tumble drier rather than a washing line because “it’s too hot to go outside” ffs.) But when I look at this story and all the other shit that‘s going on I really do feel like we’ve reached the threshold and there’s no way back. The only thing we can do now is go on, try to limiit the fall out, and rebuild better.
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story
Changing the facts
Phoenix Arizona has the highest number of home pools in the country, at more than 30%. All that is Lake Mead water. And the number of pools has increased in the last couple of years. Miami comes in at 2nd and 3rd place, but the next top ranking cities for home pools are all in the Lake Mead region.
And they’re fiends for the green lawns of golf courses, fountains, sprinklers that spray water all over the fucking pavement while it’s still hot. So much stupid.
www.aquamagazine.com
Look at these sprinklers deliberately positioned at the outside edge of the lawn, and running in hot sunny daylight. FFS.
And here is an aerial view of Shadow Creek golf course in Las Vegas.
A paper about the loss of water due to evaporation from the Bellagio fountains in Las Vegas.
Obvs, every fountain and swimming pool will also be losing water to evaporation at the same rate as the Bellagio fountains.
And they’re fiends for the green lawns of golf courses, fountains, sprinklers that spray water all over the fucking pavement while it’s still hot. So much stupid.
Which U.S. Cities Have the Most Homes With Swimming Pools?
Pool installations have risen significantly over the pandemic period. We break down new data on the top 30 largest U.S. cities of homes that have swimming pools.
www.aquamagazine.com
Look at these sprinklers deliberately positioned at the outside edge of the lawn, and running in hot sunny daylight. FFS.
And here is an aerial view of Shadow Creek golf course in Las Vegas.
A paper about the loss of water due to evaporation from the Bellagio fountains in Las Vegas.
Obvs, every fountain and swimming pool will also be losing water to evaporation at the same rate as the Bellagio fountains.
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not-bono-ever
meh
golf courses in places like that are immoral
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
The Water Wars Come to the Suburbs
A community near Scottsdale, Arizona, is running out of water. Amid the finger-pointing, the real question is: how many developments will be next?
It's hard to feel much sympathy with the kind of de-socialised arseholes who move to places like Rio Verde just to avoid property taxes but the predicament they are in is utterly damning imo. I can see why people like this, who are looking down the barrel of a climate change gun end up in weird anxiety-spirals that lead them to Trump, Q Anon etc.
story
Changing the facts
After I posted I thought “why did I just spend all that time doing that?” but on reflection, I’m glad I did, it’s time we’ll spent, because we all need to be aware of this stuff.
Yes, thanks, please keep on with it, it's essential and terrifying reading.
