The weather in the USA...
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petee
no gods, no malarkey
i can now, though at first i also saw a 502 and posted it again.
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Yeah. It’s really bad. Very bad indeed. And it’s not going away and it’s going to get worse.
As I intimated earlier, when I first flagged this up as a big issue, it’s not “just” the worry about not being able to water lawns, wash cars, there is actually a real and increasing chance that those regions and cities that only exist because of the invented water supply will become uninhabitable. Crops and farm animals will go un-watered and need to be culled or not replaced, or farmed elsewhere thus putting more strain on land and water resources elsewhere, a lot of the local agriculture will become untenable.
If water shortage of sufficient magnitude hits this region of America in ways that cannot be reversed or mediated, we could be looking at some kind of long term break down in local community and then that could ripple out to local society. Put that together with the basic deep fundamental keystone bedrock foundational ethos of the American West, land rights and the fixation on Property, antipathy towards state intervention, gun ownership, the fact that plenty of those who consider themselves anti-establishment Patriots have taken up residency in these very areas….
And none of that even touches on the issues around water poverty for disenfranchised populations (poverty and homelessness is fantastically high in the SouthWest) and resulting access to affordable food, or even food full stop.
That doesn’t begin to address the issue around fish, animals, insects, plants, soil erosion….
And there is the possibility that if these lakes dry up they become a source of toxic dust that could pollute surrounding areas. Decades of wash off of pesticides, herbicides etc , are currently lurking at the bottom of these lakes. There is radioactive waste in the sediment of Lake Powell and also Lake Mead. All that could potentially be liberated if the lakes dry up. And it’s not just Lake Mead.
www.theguardian.com
www.hcn.org
www.nytimes.com
Mono Lake is already too toxic for humans to enjoy their leisure pursuits. And it’s drying up too.
www.monolake.org
Keep an eye on this. It’s a big story and it will set the tone for how we tackle the immediate and dangerous effects of climate catastrophe. So far, everyone is just running about doing the “Oh Noes” and bitching about not being able to get their big leisure craft onto the water. So far, the biggestvstory around this is how the bodies of mob victims in barrels are turning up as the water recedes. So far, it’s already so huge a problem that no one even knows how to talk about it.
As I intimated earlier, when I first flagged this up as a big issue, it’s not “just” the worry about not being able to water lawns, wash cars, there is actually a real and increasing chance that those regions and cities that only exist because of the invented water supply will become uninhabitable. Crops and farm animals will go un-watered and need to be culled or not replaced, or farmed elsewhere thus putting more strain on land and water resources elsewhere, a lot of the local agriculture will become untenable.
If water shortage of sufficient magnitude hits this region of America in ways that cannot be reversed or mediated, we could be looking at some kind of long term break down in local community and then that could ripple out to local society. Put that together with the basic deep fundamental keystone bedrock foundational ethos of the American West, land rights and the fixation on Property, antipathy towards state intervention, gun ownership, the fact that plenty of those who consider themselves anti-establishment Patriots have taken up residency in these very areas….
And none of that even touches on the issues around water poverty for disenfranchised populations (poverty and homelessness is fantastically high in the SouthWest) and resulting access to affordable food, or even food full stop.
That doesn’t begin to address the issue around fish, animals, insects, plants, soil erosion….
And there is the possibility that if these lakes dry up they become a source of toxic dust that could pollute surrounding areas. Decades of wash off of pesticides, herbicides etc , are currently lurking at the bottom of these lakes. There is radioactive waste in the sediment of Lake Powell and also Lake Mead. All that could potentially be liberated if the lakes dry up. And it’s not just Lake Mead.
‘The air is toxic’: how an idyllic California lake became a nightmare
The shrinking Salton Sea was once a tourist destination. Now it’s home to dangerous algal blooms, endless dust and noxious air
The 26,000 tons of radioactive waste under Lake Powell - High Country News
The West’s uranium boom brought dozens of mills to the banks of the Colorado River — where toxic waste was dumped irresponsibly.
www.hcn.org
As the Great Salt Lake Dries Up, Utah Faces An ‘Environmental Nuclear Bomb’
Climate change and rapid population growth are shrinking the lake, creating a bowl of toxic dust that could poison the air around Salt Lake City.
Mono Lake is already too toxic for humans to enjoy their leisure pursuits. And it’s drying up too.
Drought worsens at Mono Lake
Drought forces reduced diversions, causes problems for nesting birds and air quality Mono Lake is suffering from a severe drought. The lake has dropped
www.monolake.org
Keep an eye on this. It’s a big story and it will set the tone for how we tackle the immediate and dangerous effects of climate catastrophe. So far, everyone is just running about doing the “Oh Noes” and bitching about not being able to get their big leisure craft onto the water. So far, the biggestvstory around this is how the bodies of mob victims in barrels are turning up as the water recedes. So far, it’s already so huge a problem that no one even knows how to talk about it.
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One of the problems with this being an unavoidable mega- drought is that it will be used by climate change deniers, who will insist that since such droughts have happened before and is happening regardless of human factors, there’s nothing we are doing that is contributing to it. They’ll just move states and or start digging in, harvesting and storing water, do all the prepping.
In fact it would work well for them if Southwestern communities fail. So long as they’re upwind of the toxic dust storms, they’ll be okay. They’ll build earthships and grow food in the desert, hoard their carbon-based fuels and their guns and ammo. They’ll largely be left alone to raise their unschooled children alongside their forced-birth wives.
I know this seems far-fetched but if I’m thinking of it off the top of my head, there are many others digging into this scenario as something to plan for.
In fact it would work well for them if Southwestern communities fail. So long as they’re upwind of the toxic dust storms, they’ll be okay. They’ll build earthships and grow food in the desert, hoard their carbon-based fuels and their guns and ammo. They’ll largely be left alone to raise their unschooled children alongside their forced-birth wives.
I know this seems far-fetched but if I’m thinking of it off the top of my head, there are many others digging into this scenario as something to plan for.
bcuster
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2 dead as Texas declares disaster with torrential rain wreaking havoc
The town of Hamshire, Texas, saw six months' worth of rain in 48 hours.
biblical flooding; 2nd worst ever per experts...
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A little bit of good news.
Lake Mead is more than a foot deeper than it was, thanks to the epic local monsoon rains in recent weeks.
The flooding has been dreadful but some of the run off is landing in the reservoirs.
www.newsweek.com
However...
...and the local snowpack is in trouble too...
www.bloomberg.com
www.drought.gov
Lake Mead is more than a foot deeper than it was, thanks to the epic local monsoon rains in recent weeks.
The flooding has been dreadful but some of the run off is landing in the reservoirs.
Why Lake Mead water levels are rising again
The Las Vegas Valley has seen one of the wettest monsoon seasons in decades.
www.newsweek.com
However...
...and the local snowpack is in trouble too...
US West, Already in Drought, Is Facing Dwindling Snowpacks
Disappearing snowpack is accelerating the historic drought across the Western US, and so far government responses haven’t matched the scale of the problem.
www.bloomberg.com
Water Year 2022 Snow Drought Conditions Summary and Impacts in the West
NIDIS and its partners release these updates every 4 weeks, December through June. This update will be the last for the 2022 water year, as snowpack and snowmelt are past peak values. Updates will resume in the 2023 water year.
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A report about Lake Powell with satellite images. 6 Aug 22
earthobservatory.nasa.gov
Lake Powell Still Shrinking
The second largest reservoir in the United States now stands at its lowest level since it was filled in the mid-1960s.
petee
no gods, no malarkey
maybe i should shut up
Hurricane Fiona Lashes Puerto Rico With Flooding Rain, Landslides | The Weather Channel
Here's the latest forecast on Fiona and its potential impacts. - Articles from The Weather Channel | weather.com
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petee
no gods, no malarkey
yeh i was under covers last night.
and ...
Ian Now Forecast To Strengthen To Category 4 In Gulf Of Mexico | The Weather Channel
Here's what we know, and don't yet know, about this latest storm, Ian. - Articles from The Weather Channel | weather.com
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Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Hey ian, blow up Ron de santis' house please
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Direct hit on Tampa Bay, then?
bcuster
Well-Known Member
It sure looks like it...
2hats
Dust.
Mike Bettes @mikebettes
RARE first person view of storm surge. This camera is 6 feet off the ground on Estero Blvd in Fort Myers Beach, FL. Not sure how much longer it keeps working. You’ll see it live only on @weatherchannel #Ian
Kaitlin Wright @wxkaitlin
Houses are destroyed and some are floating away as Ian's eyewall hammers southwest Florida. This is video from Fort Myers Beach, Florida off Estero Blvd by Loni Architects
Dov Kleiman @NFL_DovKleiman
Why is Jim Cantore still out there? why even send him out?
RARE first person view of storm surge. This camera is 6 feet off the ground on Estero Blvd in Fort Myers Beach, FL. Not sure how much longer it keeps working. You’ll see it live only on @weatherchannel #Ian
Kaitlin Wright @wxkaitlin
Houses are destroyed and some are floating away as Ian's eyewall hammers southwest Florida. This is video from Fort Myers Beach, Florida off Estero Blvd by Loni Architects
Dov Kleiman @NFL_DovKleiman
Why is Jim Cantore still out there? why even send him out?
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
Just to let you know The Fox News report is from Hurricane Matthew in 2016.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
i
thought that track looked "funny" i should've known better...
ska invita
back on the other side
doomed
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
A friend in Tampa tells me they "dodged the bullet" this time
