The Voice UK (BBC1)

[spanglechick]

this danny? david? has such a cutie-pie smile.

 

[weepiper]

John-James(?) is the better singer but I think they'll choose the other one.

 

[Mr Moose]

She thought she would go through. Go back to Strictly!

Poss cause she was better?

 

[Geri]

this danny? david? has such a cutie-pie smile.

And a nice twinkle in his eye.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Is that a young Jeremy Clarkson?

 

[spanglechick]

i quite like both these

 

[Geri]

Poss cause she was better?

Arrogance.

 

[Mr Moose]

Two blokes on a stag night this.

 

[pigtails]

Oooh this is a tight call, like them both!

 

[QueenOfGoths]

Oooh this is a tight call, like them both!

Me too! They are both good

 

[Mr Moose]

It did get much better.

 

[Geri]

Chose Dave!

 

[D'wards]

It's getting on my tits - they all insist on belting out the songs and throwing in as many notes as possible.

Wonder what Karen Carpenter would have done in this "head to head" situation, being able to screech and shout the song does not necessarily make you a good singer

 

[Geri]

It's getting on my tits - they all insist on belting out the songs and throwing in as many notes as possible.

Wonder what Karen Carpenter would have done in this "head to head" situation, being able to screech and shout the song does not necessarily make you a good singer

Karen Carpenter would have had no need to enter.

 

[twentythreedom]

Someone send Jessie J for electrocution sessions...

corrected!

 

[Citizen66]

Every episode when they say what's going to be on that show they say 'there's tensions in the house...'

And then you hear no more about it for the remainder of the show.

 

[danny la rouge]

Well, that battle idea doesn't make for good music, does it? People shouting "licks and runs" over the top of each other just sounds forced and often chaotic and out of tune. And not something you'd want the record of.

Any musician will tell you that if someone else is giving it the full arpeggio treatment, you need to step back and give them space. The last thing you need to do is - at the same time - select a whole load of different arpeggios to hammer on top of the vanilla chord the band is laying down underneath.

Horrible. If the next round is no better, I'll be giving up.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Well, Ruth Brown should win this. The rest aren't very good.

But I really like Becky...her deep talking voice and accent is great.

 

[ymu]

I'm not getting the hate for Jessie J here. I've got nearly as big a crush on her as I have on Will. I think she's ace.

Danny is a fucking dick - the number of auditions where he didn't turn around for a female singer and then looked gutted when he realised they were pretty.

Tom is making some odd looking decisions. We had to replay nearly all his battles to try and fathom out his reasoning. I guess he knows what he's doing.

Well, that battle idea doesn't make for good music, does it? People shouting "licks and runs" over the top of each other just sounds forced and often chaotic and out of tune. And not something you'd want the record of.

Any musician will tell you that if someone else is giving it the full arpeggio treatment, you need to step back and give them space. The last thing you need to do is - at the same time - select a whole load of different arpeggios to hammer on top of the vanilla chord the band is laying down underneath.

Horrible. If the next round is no better, I'll be giving up.

Some of them worked a lot better than others. A few were terrific. I don't know how much the editing was responsible, but some of them just seemed to be dueting and not doing much solo at all, which was pointless, and some of the songs chosen just don't really work for battling with another singer - and/or they failed to make it work by fighting against what the coach was asking of them.

 

[danny la rouge]

Some of them worked a lot better than others. A few were terrific. I don't know how much the editing was responsible, but some of them just seemed to be dueting and not doing much solo at all, which was pointless, and some of the songs chosen just don't really work for battling with another singer - and/or they failed to make it work by fighting against what the coach was asking of them.

No song works for battling with another singer; that's not how music works.

That said, some worked relatively better than others, but only one actually worked as a piece of music: the one that Moustachio No Shoes did with Don't-Call-Me-Lady. A song I don't like, incidentally. And it only worked because they were singing a duet, not battling.

The trouble with the battle idea is that the licks didn't fit together. Too often it was pan-chromatic chaos. Too many of them had technique but no taste. And the one that sang against Bowtie Guy didn't know which licks went with which chords. She tried to end one run on a 6th while the band was playing a dominant 7th.

 

[ymu]

I'm not musical enough to be able to argue that point, although I think I know what you're getting at. But then again, not making a mess of it is part of the skill, no?

As a means of whittling down the field, I think it makes for much better telly than a dreary succession of variable quality solos. Especially where they had a strong song and two strong singers who were doing more solo work than they were interfering with each other's voices. And quite a lot of the judging was about how they handled the challenge, what they did to make it work, and so on. That's where triple threat fell over - he had to hear what the band was going to do before he could get into it, the other guy worked out what the band needed to do to make it work.

I like the fact that they're looking for a bit more musical depth than the average X Factor/BGT, and that they have so much experience as well as 'raw' talent in there. I liked that so many battles were experience vs raw also.

 

[danny la rouge]

But then again, not making a mess of it is part of the skill, no?

Yes, but not one that appears to be valued by the judges, which is what encourages the nonsense.

I know what you're saying about conflict making good telly. I just don't think it makes good music. The good voices were heard despite the set up, not because of it.

(Incidentally, I have nothing against pan-chromatic chaos in the right context. However, if your audience is expecting RESPECT by Aretha but ends up getting Space is the Place by Sun Ra, then you've got problems!)

 

[ymu]

Yeah, I'm not sure we're disagreeing really.

Although, there isn't any need for the battles to be about conflict. Danny made a lot of effort to make sure barefoot boy didn't drown out his partner, whereas with Cassius and the Welsh builder boy, he sent them in for a fight, because it was the song for it.

This is a battle from the US version. Country - so not my thing - but I think it's good musically without any conflict whatsoever. Whether it makes for a good battle, I don't know, but it does showcase both of them really well.

 

[danny la rouge]

Danny made a lot of effort to make sure barefoot boy didn't drown out his partner

And it worked. But then he chose the partner!

 

[danny la rouge]

This is a battle from the US version. Country - so not my thing - but I think it's good musically without any conflict whatsoever. Whether it makes for a good battle, I don't know, but it does showcase both of them really well.

That is just a dreary dirge. I made it 1:43 through, and that was with supreme effort.

I like country, btw, but that was just dire.

 

[ymu]

I find most country dire, so I couldn't really tell!

 

[Schmetterling]

So, yes: Will. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Developing a crush here. Those eyes! Swooooooon!



He is sooo drea-my!

 

[wtfftw]

hah. I'm warming to Will. Jessie doesn't annoy me but Danny really does.

 

[twentythreedom]

Jessie's wobbly square head

Still would though, obvs

 

[Me76]

So what format is this week?