White Lotus
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The UK banking system
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nino_savatte said:
Agreed. My response was to zArk. The industrial military complex in the UK is waning which is why we need a stake in the US, in order to maintain our global economic position. Also global capital is fast replacing military might in it's coercive influence on uncooperative economies and regimes. ie rather than be a mechansim for the one-way transferral of wealth, global capital has become a weapon.
nino_savatte
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Jelly said:
Jelly said:
phew, a mountaint to get through
Military complex in Uk is expanding - MoD are now funding schools and teaching children. What could be a greater expansion? teaching the country.
Our global economic position is controlled by private banks. England and US are micro-economies of this Macro-economic global system.
ok, wait -- maybe military-industrial complex needs a firmer description. Fascism.
Iran is the only nation with a Public Banking System and i wonder why it is being attacked by bearuocracy.
nino_savatte
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zArk said:
Proof please? Or are you just like another poster who spends all his time stalking me? He's full of hot air and his own self-importance too.
fractionMan
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Happy to obligePingu said:
nino_savatte said:
MoD
http://www.schools.mod.uk/public/youthact/activities.html
http://www.armedforces.co.uk/army/listings/l0072.html
http://www.ppu.org.uk/peacematters/2005/pm2005_spring5.html
An attempt is being made at the present time to introduce - into our schools the military spirit and the military system; to make them not schools for culture …but primarily for the instruction of people how to kill their fellow men, and to avoid being killed by them
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ent.html?in_article_id=376982&in_page_id=1787
But this is an initiative that could make a real difference to thousands of young people - many from deprived areas or broken homes - who might otherwise drift into street gangs, experiment with drugs or just slump in front of the TV.
Now they are to be offered something new: the chance to wear uniform and take pride in their personal appearance; drills to teach discipline and co-operation; lessons in basic fieldcraft, signals and navigation; leadership exercises; perhaps even the opportunity to go to sea, learn to fly or drive an armoured vehicle.
be afraid, very afraid
Iran Public National Banking System;
BIS link -http://www.bis.org/goto.htm?http://www.cbi.ir/e
actual link - http://www.cbi.ir/Section/1460.aspx
zArk said:
Fascism: Centralized govt headed by a dictator. Stringent socio-economic controls. Policy of billigerent nationalism.
No, you lost me there. Military-industrial complexes are more than that and exist outside the framework of your communist/fascist/democratic/whatever political famework.
nino_savatte
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zArk said:
Intersting choice of sources there, zArk but it doesn't mean that we are moving towards a US style state where the defence industries have the government by the short and curlies.
zArk said:
This state of affairs has always existed
This is not new and therefore is not evidence of an increased military component of our society. However far you want to go back you will find evidence of the military influencing society and trying to get its hands on the young.
And your peace pledge link initially draws on statements made in 1908.
Your point was that it is currently increasing.
So, again.
Evidence please.
It was fun but is beginning to get boring now
Jelly said:
http://www.literacytrust.org.uk/socialinclusion/youngpeople/skillforcepractice.html
Skill Force came into life in Millennium Year as a joint Ministry of Defence (MoD) and Department for Education and Skills (DfES) project. In April 2004 it became a not for profit Community Interest Company called Skill Force Development, giving it a more flexible structure.
The MoD is owned by the private banks, who funds them? Private banks. MoD owned by a corporation.
The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State--a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values--interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people.
The Fascist State lays claim to rule in the economic field no less than in others; it makes its action felt throughout the length and breadth of the country by means of its corporate, social, and educational institutions, and all the political, economic, and spiritual forces of the nation, organised in their respective associations, circulate within the State
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrine_of_Fascism
but dont worry cause it is all based upon the economy, the economy that is fake anyway. So its just a state of mind.
Jelly said:This state of affairs has always existed
This is not new and therefore is not evidence of an increased military component of our society. However far you want to go back you will find evidence of the military influencing society and trying to get its hands on the young.
And your peace pledge link initially draws on statements made in 1908.
Jelly
The Express yesterday quoted Gordon Brown saying that he would allocate money to the MoD so that kids of poor backgrounds could be taught in MoD owned schools.
Its not just expanding, it has done already, but we just dont see the problem.
Its ok, i am not going to preach at you but i have provided historical quotes and recent annoucements by the schools and MoD. When this explodes in everyones face just remember we were warned.
zArk said:
Yeah - all fine and dandy (apart from the fascism definition but let's not get hung up on that.) If you can could put ideas in your own words rather than C&P someone else's thoughts that would be cool too cos imo your misunderstanding of much of your C&Ps is down to the fact that you haven't tallied what you are reading on screen with your observations of the world as you experience it.
Anyway - again - this is not new.
Just cos it's got a different face, perhaps a different name, and is manifest in a different context doesn't make it new. The military have always wanted to get their hands on the young. This is the way it has always been.
As i said earlier, if anything, global capital is the increasingly fashionable weapon of choice for any discerning world domination enterprise. Young lads without a trade who might have gone into military service in days of olde are just as likely these days to go into the financial services industry. Full scale military might is on the way out. The future of the military arm of our economic state will be small, hit and run, time-sensitive operations aimed against specific guerilla/religious/extreme/idealistic movements that operate independently of national/economic borders and governemtns.
zArk said:
Fine - let's not worry too much then eh cos there's not a lot that you can do against a system that's been evolving and gaining momentum for a few thousand years?
zArk said:
Just because you have only just realized what our system is like, what it does, the way it evolves and has to find new techniques and ways of doing things please please please don't think you are bringing a NEW WAY OF SEEING THE WORLD to the market. Whopee - G Brown has just announced that he'd like to see more kids (who would be unable to contribute any useful skills to the economy) going into the armed forces instead of draw income support.
This is not a new theory - just new information.
Jelly said:
i call it fascism most definately as the banking system shows we, the public, own absolutely nothing.
The politicians under a private banking system are not responsible to their voting public but to the debt and paying it off. The corporation, the individual, holds all the cards, dictates to the politicians and therefore to us.
It is the system that has been progressing for hundreds of years and now it is emerging out as a Global system
"The interests behind the Bush Administration, such as the CFR [Council on Foreign Relations], The Trilateral Commission - founded by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller - and the Bilderberger Group, have prepared for, and are now moving to, implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens."
- Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, Ph.D., former German defense ministry official and advisor to former NATO Secretary General Manfred Werner
the politicians are just frontmen for a global private banking system. nothing more.
nino_savatte
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zArk said:
The US aren't "under martial law" at all. The military enjoy great prestige and power within the state...many would say it's a prestige and power that is out of proportion with their status as a repressive arm of the state. But they combine with the defence industries et voila!
Jelly said:
excuse me, but accepting sign value as the underlying basis of society it is possible to re-evaluate philosphical, sociological and psycho-analytical theories which will allow me to propose
"The science of co-incidence"
By establishing 'sign value' as the basis for culture, economics and politics, morals and ethics follow suit into a truely scientific analysis of society routed through the individual.
This is not a new theory - just new information
i am not claiming new theory, all previous theory is still valid only re-evaluated through the principle of sign value.
nino_savatte said:
I would like to direct you to alex jones www.infowars.com
cynthia mckinney
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/140206criminalsyndicate.htm
interview with cynthia
(bittorrent file) 50mins into the show cynthia comes on
http://www.synchronisepc.co.uk/aj_2006-02-09[1].mp3.torrent
i wish i could host it but at 32mb it is not an option
and ron paul
A Dashing Blade
Takes horses to water but can't make donkeys drink
ROFL!!!!!!!!
One of the funniest wind up threads I've seen in a long time.
Zark, I know you're posting total, utter shite.
You know you're posting total utter shite.
Every single contributor on this thread knows . . . etc
You are a total fruitloop and I claim my £5.
Even if s/he is a "returning" poster, I'm all in favour of allowing Zark to stay
One of the funniest wind up threads I've seen in a long time.
Zark, I know you're posting total, utter shite.
You know you're posting total utter shite.
Every single contributor on this thread knows . . . etc
You are a total fruitloop and I claim my £5.
Even if s/he is a "returning" poster, I'm all in favour of allowing Zark to stay
nino_savatte
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zArk said:
Oh dear, Alex Jones....now I know you're barking.
A Dashing Blade said:ROFL!!!!!!!!
One of the funniest wind up threads I've seen in a long time.
Zark, I know you're posting total, utter shite.
You know you're posting total utter shite.
Every single contributor on this thread knows . . . etc
You are a total fruitloop and I claim my £5.
Even if s/he is a "returning" poster, I'm all in favour of allowing Zark to stay
you are entitled to your slander.
If you are accusing me of talking shite.. then please PROVE it.
nino_savatte
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zArk said:
Alex Jones...Jeff Rense...Joe Vialls...
