the Online Safety Bill - new law incoming. "Trolls will be jailed for psychological harm"

[WouldBe]

There would be an amazing number of people bringing these cases I imagine, saying they’ve suffered psychological harm online.
It is a totally different thing to criminalising certain content, criminalising the impact felt by the reader.

You might need a psychologist or similar to back that up.

 

[NoXion]

Your example is already covered by existing legislation, ‘malicious communications’ are a criminal offence.

This is what pisses me off about introducing new laws like this. We already have laws dealing with the kind of shit people who send nasty letters. Bullying and harassment and people inciting others to do the same all happened before the internet was a thing, I don't understand what this new law does which the old ones supposedly didn't.

 

[two sheds]

Some MPs will no doubt be feeling bullied and harassed when people suggest they were part of a government responsible for oooo what 100,000 extra deaths?

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I take it this is 'David's Law'? Is it regarding online comments personally directed at MP's? Or any comment, anywhere online?

 

[8ball]

I take it this is 'David's Law'? Is it regarding online comments personally directed at MP's? Or any comment, anywhere online?

Shouldn't that law be something to do with stabbing people, or am I thinking of the wrong David?

 

[bimble]

I take it this is 'David's Law'? Is it regarding online comments personally directed at MP's? Or any comment, anywhere online?

no.
that Times article is quite shit.
This is what its actually about.

Reforms to protect victims of online abuse and safeguard freedom of expression announced - Law Commission

Law Commission recommends reforms to the communications offences to target serious harms arising from online abuse, while more effectively protecting the right to freedom of expression. A new harm-based offence would ensure only sufficiently harmful communications – which are likely to cause...

www.lawcom.gov.uk

 

[Pickman's model]

Some MPs will no doubt be feeling bullied and harassed when people suggest they were part of a government responsible for oooo what 100,000 extra deaths?

Maybe if MPs had some actual decent political values then they'd get a modicum of respect. No one respects MPs now. And why should they?

 

[two sheds]

Doesn't stop them having feelings

 

[Pickman's model]

Doesn't stop them having feelings

While much of the abuse they receive is really out of order, the Tory MPs ought to realise they bear some responsibility for it as they've been in power for more than a decade. Over that time public discourse which wasn't at a very high level anyway has much declined in terms of politeness. Not to mention that successive parliaments have encouraged racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, and so on. It's a bit late to complain about their precious feelings when labour and Tory administrations have provoked hatred and contempt for many groups in society. This isn't in any way to condone or excuse rape threats, racist messages or misogyny. Those are always beyond the pale.

 

[two sheds]

Can't argue with any of that

 

[SpackleFrog]

There would be an amazing number of people bringing these cases I imagine, saying they’ve suffered psychological harm online.
It is a totally different thing to criminalising certain content, criminalising the impact felt by the reader.

An amazing number of people who can afford good lawyers at least.

 

[SpackleFrog]

While much of the abuse they receive is really out of order, the Tory MPs...

You've changed, man...

 

[Pickman's model]

You've changed, man...

If you read further on you'd see I was talking about rape threats, racism and misogyny. I see no cause to defend that sort of abuse.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

What we need is an expert on online trolling. Have we ever had one of those posting here?

 

[8ball]

What we need is an expert on online trolling. Have we ever had one of those posting here?

Yeah, I remember one who was very eminent in this field.

Don Von Dishmop, wasn't it? Something like that...

 

[Serge Forward]

We should be able to find someone from here: https://www.urban75.net/forums/banned-users-list/

 

[SpackleFrog]

If you read further on you'd see I was talking about rape threats, racism and misogyny. I see no cause to defend that sort of abuse.

Ahhhh fair sorry as you were

 

[elbows]

The level of competence this government demonstrates gives me cause to hope that a misprint in the legislation may lead to a bill that states "Tories will be jailed for psychological harm".

 

[Saul Goodman]

The level of competence this government demonstrates gives me cause to hope that a misprint in the legislation may lead to a bill that states "Tories will be jailed for psychological harm".

I'd prefer a law that states "Tories will be jailed for sociopathic harm"

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

What we need is an expert on online trolling. Have we ever had one of those posting here?

It’s clearly time for detective boy to make a comeback…

 

[cupid_stunt]

What we need is an expert on online trolling. Have we ever had one of those posting here?

Yes, IIRC he was a professor, certainly his first and middle names were 'fuck' and 'off'.

 

[Ax^]

What we need is an expert on online trolling. Have we ever had one of those posting here?

let not talk about voldemoriky

 

[elbows]

 

[Saul Goodman]

I'm shocked that you might be suggesting hypocrisy and/or double standards! Shocked I tell you!

 

[NoXion]

I'm pretty sure it was no secret in 2017 that Tommy Boy was a racist knobber.

 

[bluescreen]

Bump. Are we still going to be able to recommend one-way tickets to South Georgia?
What will become of urban if not?

Online Harms Bill: Cyber-flashing added to proposed legislation

Criminalising sending obscene images using social media has been added to plans to be debated by MPs.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[dessiato]

There’s going to be some on here needing to revise their behaviour, let alone on places like FB, Twitter, etc.

 

[nogojones]

It looks great fun. When I'm unjustly banned for winding up vegans or anyone else I can appeal to OFCOM.

We may as well start the gofundme page to keep the Editor in hobnobs whilst he's in prison now.

 

[Artaxerxes]

There’s going to be some on here needing to revise their behaviour, let alone on places like FB, Twitter, etc.

At least half the newspaper columnists in the British press for a start

 

[two sheds]

Is this the beginning of the end for penguination?