The new James Bond movie title is...
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
took a bit out out of all the other films to make a new film and then
kill the main guy off
Reno
The In Kraut
I'd say that Bond always being the same film slightly rejigged is a feature, not a bug. This one departs from the formula more than most.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
aye, especially the beginning with the Hanna bit instead of Bond stunting his way out of somewhere spectacular. It annoyed me every time they did an overt nod to another film. it just felt overly meta
Reno
The In Kraut
gosub
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Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Agree entirely....that was disappointing
I thought No Time to Die was way too long, not a single really memorable action scene and who wantsPapa Bond FFS.Now they'll have to piece him back together for the next one as he obviously did find the time to die.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Possibly the greatest Bond film, but possibly not the greatest Bond.
(Dodgy treatment of the women characters, aside.)
I thought it was decent enough, the villain with his creepy mask was memorable - one of the better Bond villains for sure - and it tried to do something different.
Think I'd need a second viewing to give a definitive notion of whether it is actually good though.
Nevertheless I think it is good enough to confirm that the Daniel Craig era is better than the Roger Moore era (which is really the worst Bond era IMO) and Pierce Brosnan era.
I'd put this movie as 3rd best Craig one. Skyfall and Casino Royale were very good, this one was good, Spectre was OK and Quantam of Solace was terrible.
Think I'd need a second viewing to give a definitive notion of whether it is actually good though.
Nevertheless I think it is good enough to confirm that the Daniel Craig era is better than the Roger Moore era (which is really the worst Bond era IMO) and Pierce Brosnan era.
I'd put this movie as 3rd best Craig one. Skyfall and Casino Royale were very good, this one was good, Spectre was OK and Quantam of Solace was terrible.
I might be misremembering, but wasn't that car chase scene in the Italian town part of the intro as well? That was pretty nice to look at and a good action sequence. It also had a bit more emotional weight than most introductions, raising the question of whether she was a Spectre agent with Stockholm syndrome. The intro was one of the strongest parts of the film I think.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
It was more than Ok, ticked the franchise boxes, mostly in an effective way. Some good set pieces, lots of high end product placement, beautiful scenery and people, stupid gadgets, bits or wry humour and some good references without being too knowing. Even a couple of places where they provoked an emotional response in me at least. Not great film but I thought a great Bond film.
I was disappointed that HMS Bedford wasn't brought back, Dragon was a stupid name for a RN warship...
Controversially I think Craig has been the best Bond so far (but then he is my spitting image...) I also didn't think it was overlong.
Any way as I have stated before as a talking point. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is a Bond film. Discuss.
I was disappointed that HMS Bedford wasn't brought back, Dragon was a stupid name for a RN warship...
Controversially I think Craig has been the best Bond so far (but then he is my spitting image...) I also didn't think it was overlong.
Any way as I have stated before as a talking point. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is a Bond film. Discuss.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
not-bono-ever
meh
I quite enjoyed it. My arse was numb by the end so by that measure, it was a bit long. It kinda rolled up the story but I’m a bit weary of the spectre heavy last couple. Mrs NBE said it resembled a call of duty game in some places. Or more precisely, like one of them games you used to play.
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
Enjoyed the Matera, in Italy, episode at the beginning. It's just a Bond film, I came out not really remembering much.
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
Think I will prefer to rewatch the 70s Roger Moore films, plus the earlier Connery ones. They’re fun, Bond films are meant to be fun, glamorous, colourful and frivolous escapism. Not noir which is what the last ones have felt like.
For me this clip sums up Bond movies, an awesome car chase, people falling off ladders and fruit stall produce going flying, Roger Moore’s look at the bad guy at 2:27 and an unscripted quip at 3:51 which makes the female character laugh.
For me this clip sums up Bond movies, an awesome car chase, people falling off ladders and fruit stall produce going flying, Roger Moore’s look at the bad guy at 2:27 and an unscripted quip at 3:51 which makes the female character laugh.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
It isThe reviews are mostly raves, the best one since Casino Royale apparently.
‘No Time to Die’ Review: Daniel Craig’s Bond Gets the Send-Off He Deserves in the Series’ Best Entry Since ‘Casino Royale’
Director Cary Joji Fukunaga fuses all the elements of a good 007 adventure, including that ineffable touch of soul.variety.com
'No Time to Die' Film Review: Daniel Craig's Final 007 Outing Might Be His Greatest
Finally released after a lengthy delay, Craig takes James Bond to exciting, emotional places where the character has rarely, if ever, traveledwww.thewrap.com
No Time to Die review: Daniel Craig’s epic swan song is a triumph
Craig bows out with the best James Bond movie since Casino Royalewww.timeout.com
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
Even if I didn’t think it was excellent, I’d be hard pushed to not give it a star for the excellent locations used. Italy, Norway, Faroe Islands, Jamaica, Scotland, and er, Hammersmith.
Actually I did do a little cheer when I saw Hammersmith Bridge in the distance while Bond and M chatted outside the Rutland Arms. Then I remembered I actually passed a lot of the film crew trucks at the time as I was forced to walk over the bloody thing on the way to work as it’s been THAT LONG since it was closed to traffic not that they really got around to addressing this in the movie. Though it would’ve made for a good plot twist if they’d ended the film with a good fight sequence on top of the structure. Sort of like a nod to a View To A Kill but instead of the Golden Gate Bridge surviving an exploding zeppelin, it collapses mid fight sequence due to structural issues and council incompetence.
Actually I did do a little cheer when I saw Hammersmith Bridge in the distance while Bond and M chatted outside the Rutland Arms. Then I remembered I actually passed a lot of the film crew trucks at the time as I was forced to walk over the bloody thing on the way to work as it’s been THAT LONG since it was closed to traffic
not that they really got around to addressing this in the movie. Though it would’ve made for a good plot twist if they’d ended the film with a good fight sequence on top of the structure. Sort of like a nod to a View To A Kill but instead of the Golden Gate Bridge surviving an exploding zeppelin, it collapses mid fight sequence due to structural issues and council incompetence.
Reno
The In Kraut
Cloo
Banana for scale
We loved it - especially gsv who is a huge Bond fan to the point of having read all the books. Apparently there are several call backs to the books (the 'poison garden' thing appeared in the book of, I think he said 'You Only Live Twice', for example) as well as the films. I have to say I didn't feel it dragged at all for its length and that the action was great but avoiding always trying to top previous/other films. Until the end of course - we loved the Ken Adam homage sets in the final baddie lair. I liked how Nomie's off-duty outfits were I think consciously referring to 70s/80s Bond - a safari-suit type look and generally slightly mannish power-dressing styles.
Seems to me to be very much setting the stage for full reboot, which could go any number of ways.
Seems to me to be very much setting the stage for full reboot, which could go any number of ways.
stdP
One Swiss dinosaur in Polly Gosling's anorak hood
Saw it at the cinema over the weekend; I've not read the rest of the thread for all your takes on it yet so here's my unfiltered effluvia. Spoilers beware etc so please let me know if I should be spoiler-tagging the whole thing. In a word...
Meh.
I certainly delivered on the Bond set pieces, but as a whole it never really came together.
The poor chemistry between Bond and 007 didn't help matters. She seemed to want to needle him endlessly over not being 007 any more for reasons I couldn't really fathom, only to half-heartedly stop needling him and hand him his moniker back like it had any amount of significance. If they'd kept the characterisation of Ana de Armas' fun little cameo (great as her time on the screen was, sadly I'm not really sure what the point of her role was) to be used for 007 and kept it up throughout the film they'd have had a far better repartee going on.
If they wanted Bond to go all mushy over a wife'n'kid, I think they needed someone of the calibre of Vesper Lynd (Eva Green and Mads Mikkelsen being the high point of Craig's tenure as far as characters and acting goes) to do it. It's not that Sedoux is bad, she very definitely isn't, she just never seemed to get given the chance to do much that's interesting. Disappointingly flat especially in contrast to the nice little expose of her childhood trauma (complete with a cameo from Feathers McGraw) and didn't feel like an adequate modern-day substitute for Tracy di Vincenzo.
As soon as the phrase "we have all the time in the world" was uttered right at the start it was obvious one of the two was going to die. Should have saved it for before the denouement. But happy to hear Louis Armstrong again. (Yes, for those of you who are curious I even like Lazenby in OHMSS)
Henchman whose gimmick is a fake eye. Hmm. For a minute I'd hoped he'd have shades of ultra-hammy Charles Dance from Last Action Hero but sadly he just seemed to be a guy stuffing a tactical vest.
Craig can still take a battering really well and look convincingly recovered-yet-wounded afterwards and that's been one of the things I've liked most about his brutish-but-vulnerable Bond.
The villain was, I felt, taking something of a back-seat in this one and outside of the wholly creepy opening scene/flashback I thought Rami Malek was largely wasted as a result. Also, his evil master plan was never really explained, taking a lot of wind out of the sails of both character and plot buildup and the stakes for the finale, nor the obvious disconnect with his "thing" being poison but his actual weapon being stolen nanobots. Even if the plot to poison half the planet was straight out of Drax/Moonraker, there should at least have been the classic megalomaniacal "new era" speech. IIRC the poison garden might have been in one of the books (possibly Live and Let Die? I have no interest in reading any more of Fleming's stuff to check) so I think they were just trying to shoehorn something from the lore in, but it felt forced.
TLDR: Too many characters, not enough characterisation. Takes itself a bit too seriously and not seriously enough. Great stunts as ever even if some of the scenes felt largely superficial. A solid effort but I'd hoped Craig's Bond would get a better send-off.
Meh.
I certainly delivered on the Bond set pieces, but as a whole it never really came together.
The poor chemistry between Bond and 007 didn't help matters. She seemed to want to needle him endlessly over not being 007 any more for reasons I couldn't really fathom, only to half-heartedly stop needling him and hand him his moniker back like it had any amount of significance. If they'd kept the characterisation of Ana de Armas' fun little cameo (great as her time on the screen was, sadly I'm not really sure what the point of her role was) to be used for 007 and kept it up throughout the film they'd have had a far better repartee going on.
If they wanted Bond to go all mushy over a wife'n'kid, I think they needed someone of the calibre of Vesper Lynd (Eva Green and Mads Mikkelsen being the high point of Craig's tenure as far as characters and acting goes) to do it. It's not that Sedoux is bad, she very definitely isn't, she just never seemed to get given the chance to do much that's interesting. Disappointingly flat especially in contrast to the nice little expose of her childhood trauma (complete with a cameo from Feathers McGraw) and didn't feel like an adequate modern-day substitute for Tracy di Vincenzo.
As soon as the phrase "we have all the time in the world" was uttered right at the start it was obvious one of the two was going to die. Should have saved it for before the denouement. But happy to hear Louis Armstrong again. (Yes, for those of you who are curious I even like Lazenby in OHMSS)
Henchman whose gimmick is a fake eye. Hmm. For a minute I'd hoped he'd have shades of ultra-hammy Charles Dance from Last Action Hero but sadly he just seemed to be a guy stuffing a tactical vest.
Craig can still take a battering really well and look convincingly recovered-yet-wounded afterwards and that's been one of the things I've liked most about his brutish-but-vulnerable Bond.
The villain was, I felt, taking something of a back-seat in this one and outside of the wholly creepy opening scene/flashback I thought Rami Malek was largely wasted as a result. Also, his evil master plan was never really explained, taking a lot of wind out of the sails of both character and plot buildup and the stakes for the finale, nor the obvious disconnect with his "thing" being poison but his actual weapon being stolen nanobots. Even if the plot to poison half the planet was straight out of Drax/Moonraker, there should at least have been the classic megalomaniacal "new era" speech. IIRC the poison garden might have been in one of the books (possibly Live and Let Die? I have no interest in reading any more of Fleming's stuff to check) so I think they were just trying to shoehorn something from the lore in, but it felt forced.
TLDR: Too many characters, not enough characterisation. Takes itself a bit too seriously and not seriously enough. Great stunts as ever even if some of the scenes felt largely superficial. A solid effort but I'd hoped Craig's Bond would get a better send-off.
ruffneck23
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It's out on the dodgy sites....
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I received a box set of the entire Eon series for Xmas. Will watch and report back
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Ok, have got to You Only Twice and need a pause.
things I have learned or realised:
James Bond is really shit at his job
Ken Adam is a motherfuckin’ genius
The reason all foreign characters, especially the villains in Bond films all sound a bit weird, with unspecified or hard to identify ‘foreign’ actors is because they were dubbed by English speaking actors. Indeed, many of them were done by one chap:
Robert Rietti, Expert Voice Dubber for James Bond Villains, Dies at 92
Known as "the man of a thousand voices," the British actor also stood in, orally, for Orson Welles, Christopher Plummer and many others in his long, and largely unheralded, career.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
The racism and misogyny I knew about already but it’s even more evident now I’m a grown up. In the first film, Dr No, he even orders a fellow agent, a Jamaican, to fetch his shoes.
Never mind the Japanese browning up and the one liners and the raping and hitting of women. He rapes from the outset. Eugh, can’t wait for the Roger Moore films - dunno why but he seems less of a brute than Connery, but I’m sure to come across more inexcusable shite from that character.
T & P
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I don’t know if more or less than Connery’s Bond, but certainly a similar level of completely unacceptable misogyny, sexual assaults, and racist stereotypes. Some films don’t age well at all, but even among them I struggle to think of iconic films that have aged as badly as the classic Bond franchise movies.Ok, have got to You Only Twice and need a pause.
things I have learned or realised:
James Bond is really shit at his job
Ken Adam is a motherfuckin’ genius
The reason all foreign characters, especially the villains in Bond films all sound a bit weird, with unspecified or hard to identify ‘foreign’ actors is because they were dubbed by English speaking actors. Indeed, many of them were done by one chap:
Robert Rietti, Expert Voice Dubber for James Bond Villains, Dies at 92
Known as "the man of a thousand voices," the British actor also stood in, orally, for Orson Welles, Christopher Plummer and many others in his long, and largely unheralded, career.www.hollywoodreporter.com
The racism and misogyny I knew about already but it’s even more evident now I’m a grown up. In the first film, Dr No, he even orders a fellow agent, a Jamaican, to fetch his shoes.
Never mind the Japanese browning up and the one liners and the raping and hitting of women. He rapes from the outset. Eugh, can’t wait for the Roger Moore films - dunno why but he seems less of a brute than Connery, but I’m sure to come across more inexcusable shite from that character.
And aside from that, for a franchise of such calibre the special effects often look shite nowadays, even allowing for the era they were filmed in. Plenty of other movies from those decades still look impressive today. Some of the Bond scenes involving spacecraft, rockets, secret bases and the likes are barely better than Thunderbirds at times. Full of clichéd dialogue and predictable editing as well. Without the benefit of rose-tinted spectacles they would look undoubtedly shit to anyone.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
The thing is, I don’t think there really was any excuse for that shit even back then and we let these films, which have had an indelible malign influence on our culture that still persists but we tend to let them off the hook for being from another time. I remember my mother having very strong opinions about the films and my dad agreeing that it was chauvinist nonsense and practically a fantasy confirming the worldview of a privately educated elite (he was raised in that mileu too, in fact an old school friend of his starred in a rubbish derivative of Bond called Reilly Ace Of Spies)
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