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You are referring to the things from the book-plot. Even if a film tries to be faithful to a book, it can’t possibly get into 2 hours everything from the book, so the scriptwriters have to decide which elements they are including and what they are missing out. And that’s before the time they also lose by putting in extra things.
But it retained the main events of the novel, devised and presented by the novelist as an interrelated sequence.

Which is literally what a plot is.
 
I didn’t say there was an absence of a plot, I said it was totally unmemorable. Something that seems to have been borne out by the summaries given by others
 
I only really like the earlier Bond films from a cinematic and story telling perspective but they’re unbelievably racist and sexist which spoils them. Never bothered with any of the newer stuff. Not a fan of action films particularly.
 
I too prefer the Bonds of the older vintage. Partly as I’ll never know what the 70s looked like not having been alive, but also the franchise was just more fun with Roger Moore.

Anyway, despite not really liking Craig’s interpretation, wish the chap would enjoy himself, this will probably be my first cinema trip for 20 months.
 
I didn’t say there was an absence of a plot, I said it was totally unmemorable. Something that seems to have been borne out by the summaries given by others
Whether you found the plot memorable or not, Casino Royale is among the most critically acclaimed and best regarded of the Bond films. That's what the critic I was citing was referring to. Maybe if he reads your superior assessment here, he'll change his mind.
 
Casino Royale is among the most critically acclaimed and best regarded of the Bond films.
High praise indeed. Truly it must be a film for the ages.

ETA I thought of a better comeback. I should have said, “What, even better than Tomorrow Never Dies”?
 
Not sure if the plot in Casino Royale was the first thing they wanted you to remember.


That's a feature of all of the Bond films and novels.



 
Not sure if the plot in Casino Royale was the first thing they wanted you to remember.


It does have a really thin plot, Bond has to beat Le Chaffre at cards. He fails, gets some more money, gets beaten up and goes back to finish the job. There aren’t any great variations in any of them.
 
It does have a really thin plot, Bond has to beat Le Chaffre at cards. He fails, gets some more money, gets beaten up and goes back to finish the job. There aren’t any great variations in any of them.
That is if you ignore that it has what is probably the most complex female character in the series and the whole storyline involving her and Bond, which has a film noir quality. Even more so than OHMSS, where Diana Riggs' character is absent for large portions of the film, it's the one Bond film where you feel Bond is really falling in love with the Bond girl and he does so with tragic consequences. Even without her, the plot is no less thin than that of any Bond film, he gets a mission and does his best to succeed. Casino Royale has a bit more plot than most, because it's based on the first Bond novel which sets up the character of Bond. Many of the other Bond films really are a string of action sequences, barely held together by the story.
 
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Speaking as an immigrant…Craig was in my A-Level English Lit class for a short period. Nice anecdote to say ‘yeah i went to school with James Bond’.
 
Certain men babies are having meltdowns online (Bond's gone woke/end of the franchise/end of the world/why can't things be like my childhood anymore/why can't Bond slap around women anymore etc). This only makes it more of a must see for yours truly :D

Seriously, though - there's a lot of incel type vibes following the chatter out there. It's fucking weird how upset some men are with stuff they got into as kids/teens. It's like they never get over it, can't handle change (or growing up?).

Unless, it's orchestrated stuff. False outrage designed to provoke?
 
Certain men babies are having meltdowns online (Bond's gone woke/end of the franchise/end of the world/why can't things be like my childhood anymore/why can't Bond slap around women anymore etc). This only makes it more of a must see for yours truly :D

Seriously, though - there's a lot of incel type vibes following the chatter out there. It's fucking weird how upset some men are with stuff they got into as kids/teens. It's like they never get over it, can't handle change (or growing up?).

Unless, it's orchestrated stuff. False outrage designed to provoke?
There are incel vibes following any major blockbuster these days. Female critics getting rape and death threads for giving the latest Zack Snyder abomination a less than enthusiastic review, has become very common. Unfortunately I don't think it's orchestrated, social media has given every IQ challenged cretin a voice.
 
i saw it this morning and what do you know, it’s a James Bond movie, so two hackneyed cliches out of five, as is always the case. the only difference to the others is it’s more meta, with references to other films, not just Bond
 
Just saw it. Pretty good. Wasn’t expecting the ending. I guess the next 007 will not be known as James Bond, unless they decide the new agent should change his name to honour the old man…

I would say one thing though: Imperial Stormtroopers get a bad press for being shit at hitting anything, but the henchmen in this film make the former look like elite snipers by comparison… I mean, at close range in enclosed spaces and with machine guns, and still not a scratch on on good old James :D
 
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I don’t think saying baddie henchmen are terrible at shooting at the protagonists of a film is in any way a spoiler… but I’ll hide the rest of the sentence.
 
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