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The Meat-Free Breakfast thread.

Waitrose's veggie breakfast has two veggie sausages instead of meatie sausages and two "rashers" or veggie bacon instead of slices of dead pig.

It puzzles me why non-veggies believe that vegetarians really, really want imitation meat products.

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I sort of do too, but then I was never a sausage and bacon guy anyway. I assume it's at least a good stepping stone for some.
 
Waitrose's veggie breakfast has two veggie sausages instead of meatie sausages and two "rashers" or veggie bacon instead of slices of dead pig.

It puzzles me why non-veggies believe that vegetarians really, really want imitation meat products.

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It puzzles me that some people are really so naive, I sometimes wonder if they're merely being disingenuous.

When they finally perfect lab grown steaks that are as good as the real thing but don't require killing animals, I'll start eating meat again.

Being vegetarian is not necessarily the same as not wanting to eat meat. Think about it people, we've put men on the moon, if we can do that, you can get this.
 
It’s a deal breaker environmentally. I mentioned to two vegan friends the impact that avocado orchards are having in Mexico due to deforestation, they had no idea.

Live in NZ where we grow heaps of the tasty buggers :D

At the moment the winning breakfast is some avo on white toast with a couple of poached eggs and some cracked pepper, especially as my chickens are now laying and their eggs are absolutely perfect for poaching. Perfect little rugby balls of runny-yolk deliciousness.
 
Everything we eat has packaging and transportation unless you live entirely off your allotment. :facepalm:

Animal agriculture contributes more to climate change than all transport combined, it also uses 70% of agricultural land and is one of the leading causes of deforestation, biodiversity loss, and water pollution.
This is what is persuading me I need to eat less meat. There was a chap on the radio this morning who said we should be consuming one portion of beef, pork or lamb a week, max. As I age i’m naturally eating less meat anyway. The challenge is getting hendo to do the same!
 
This is my veggie breakfast from last Sunday.

Toast, veggie Lincolnshire sausages, beans, grilled tomato, veggie bacon, tofu scramble and mushrooms.

I made the Lincolnshire sausages from this mix, the scramble is silken tofu with garlic and onion powder, turmeric, nutritional yeast, and salt and pepper. The veggie bacon is tofurkey slices marinated in olive oil and paprika and then cooked on a griddle pan.
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It’s a deal breaker environmentally. I mentioned to two vegan friends the impact that avocado orchards are having in Mexico due to deforestation, they had no idea.
Most avos I see for sale over here are not from Mexico though - I've been purposely buying quinoa from Spain rather from South America. I've been reading about the siituation in mexico with Avo - it resembles drug wars.
 
I'd like to recommend the 'sunshine breakfast' from coast to coast in Stansted airport. So good a carnivore like me orders it over the meat choices in there. I think they have branches elsewhere - can't find a photo but it includes - roast tomato, grilled peppers, an egg any style - two vegetarian sausages (tasted homemade to me and were very good), two courgette fritters and chunky guacamole.
 
I'd like to recommend the 'sunshine breakfast' from coast to coast in Stansted airport. So good a carnivore like me orders it over the meat choices in there. I think they have branches elsewhere - can't find a photo but it includes - roast tomato, grilled peppers, an egg any style - two vegetarian sausages (tasted homemade to me and were very good), two courgette fritters and chunky guacamole.

Absolutely agree, its really rather good and all washed down with a 6am pint... Its the only good thing about that hellhole (Stansted airport that is).

On the subject of airports Huxley's at Heathrow T5 also does a decent veg breakfast offering.
 
Most avos I see for sale over here are not from Mexico though - I've been purposely buying quinoa from Spain rather from South America. I've been reading about the siituation in mexico with Avo - it resembles drug wars.

tbh I've never really looked, always had Mexico as the prime supplier to the EU. I wonder what impact Avo's are having environmentally on other countries. Some interesting info on the cbi.eu website that has Colombia down as a future importer;

"The worldwide production of avocados is increasing and competition is fierce. Temporary shortfalls in supply or demand (e.g. through border closures or the climate) have a huge impact on prices.

Mexico is by far the largest producer with 1.5 million tonnes in 2014 and a forecast of 1.8 million tonnes in the 2016/2017 season. For Mexico, the European market is an alternative to its usual North American focus and its export to Europe has gone up significantly since 2015.

After Mexico, there are several countries producing between 0.2 and 0.4 million tonnes of avocados per year, among which the Dominican Republic, Peru, Indonesia, Colombia and Kenya.

However, most avocados in Europe originate from Peru and Chile. Colombia is positioning itself as a new upcoming supplier thanks to an enormous increase in production, although quality issues remain a major area for attention.

Guatemala is expected to become a more significant supplier in future as well. Here, producers have developed considerable production volumes and started their export to Europe in 2017. Their exports in the first quarter of 2017 amounted to around ten containers destined to the Netherlands and the United Kingdom, but their full effects will probably take a few more years."
 
Here is the meat-free version of this thread https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/the-full-english-back-me-up.291452/

Here we can post up our vegetarian, vegan, pescetarian cooked breakfasts and be judged (harshly or otherwise) on them.

I will get the ball rolling with 2 I had in Liverpool at the weekend.

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This was in Love Thy Neighbour which was next to my hotel. Veggie black pudding was good, only one hash brown though.

Camera too potato.

Eggs look nice but could do with a bit more cooking. Would like to try the black pudding. Good toast, assuming buttered correctly on the flipside....

No judgment on the notauges as they are too out of focus. Beans need more reducing, mushrooms look shrivelled.

Would still eat. 4/10 though as needs more attention next time.
 
Doolin Cafe, if you're ever in Doolin. They do a fantastic veggie brekky with free filter coffee and they have all manner of tempting cakes for sale too
Doolin Cafe – Fresh tasty food in delightful surroundings

Also, Cobbs Cafe in Sydenham - biggest bestest veggie brekky I've ever had! Was a tenner like but we were starvacated and it was massive, so. Fried halloumi, poached eggs with hollandaise sauce, wilted spinach, hash browns, best veggie saussie I've tasted, fried tomatoes, big hunks of wholegrain home-baked bread, home-made spicy ketchup, and beans. Nom!
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It’s a deal breaker environmentally. I mentioned to two vegan friends the impact that avocado orchards are having in Mexico due to deforestation, they had no idea.

Thanks for the heads up, I will check the origin of avocados when I buy them.
 
Why? White's cooked, yolk is still runny. Everything else is detail imo. And they have done the polite thing of putting the beans in a separate container so that they do not pollute the eggs. Gets an A grade from me.

What's in a veggie black pudding? How do you replicate blood?


In theory you can have actual Black Pud as a veggie if - IF - the farmer/abbatoir can find a way to bleed a pig without it dying.


No different from milk.



I give blood. Cup of tea and a Mars Bar I’m back on track. Peppa could do it too.
 
In theory you can have actual Black Pud as a veggie if - IF - the farmer/abbatoir can find a way to bleed a pig without it dying.


No different from milk.



I give blood. Cup of tea and a Mars Bar I’m back on track. Peppa could do it too.
1) Black pudding is usually made with pig fat...

2) It's a misconception that anything can be vegetarian so long as nothing died. The definition is subjective but to many people it means not consuming anything animal based that isn't intended for consumption. Milk is fine because the animal produces it for that very reason. If you chop off a pig's ear but don't kill the pig, it doesn't make the ear a handy vegetarian snack.
 
1) Black pudding is usually made with pig fat...

2) It's a misconception that anything can be vegetarian so long as nothing died. The definition is subjective but to many people it means not consuming anything animal based that isn't intended for consumption. Milk is fine because the animal produces it for that very reason. If you chop off a pig's ear but don't kill the pig, it doesn't make the ear a handy vegetarian snack.

I... don't actually think milk is fine. Loads of male calves die to make sure that folks have milk available, that is the basis of the dairy industry.
I wouldn't want a pig bled over and over and kept alive to make black pudding either.

(I am not even 100% vegetarian, I was for 20 years but now put myself in the "mostly veggie and occasionally eat meat" bracket - I still find a lot of practices distateful)

EDIT: And I find it disgraceful that a thread about FEB can run to multiple pages with friendly jibes about the ingredients, but this thread cannot even get to the bottom of page 2 without people shit-stirring about it, because it is veggie breakfast.
 
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I... don't actually think milk is fine. Loads of male calves die to make sure that folks have milk available, that is the basis of the dairy industry.
I wouldn't want a pig bled over and over and kept alive to make black pudding either.
Like I said, it's subjective. Many people choose not to consume milk also. The point I was making is that it's perfectly possible to consume milk that has come from a cow with it being natural & no harm being done. In practice that may not be possible, due to the indirect harm caused by the processes employed in the dairy industry, which is why many eschew it. But it is no way comparable to the use of blood - cows are no more designed to produce blood for consumption than humans are. cheesepig was suggesting milk & blood were equivalent in that respect, when they're not.
 
Like I said, it's subjective. Many people choose not to consume milk also. The point I was making is that it's perfectly possible to consume milk that has come from a cow with it being natural & no harm being done. In practice that may not be possible, due to the indirect harm caused by the processes employed in the dairy industry, which is why many eschew it. But it is no way comparable to the use of blood - cows are no more designed to produce blood for consumption than humans are. cheesepig was suggesting milk & blood were equivalent in that respect, when they're not.

Why can't we have a discussion about what makes a good veggie breakfast without this sort of fucking nit-picking though? Either discuss the breakfast, or sod off. Or go and moralise on the FEB thread.

And the same goes to those who criticise people who like meat substitute products also. Not my cup of tea, but I don't think buying a pack of Linda McCartneys sausages in a cardboard pack (which often biodegrades in my freezer), is reason to call anyone out on packaging - for anyone who weighed into this thread about packaging being worse for the environment
 
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My ideal veggie brekkie would be:

Scrambled eggs, mushrooms (about a kilo, fried in butter), baked beans, toast - I prefer scrambled but eggs can be done any way you like. Addition of a potato product depends upon how hungry I am. I am not keen on grilled/fried tomatoes (that is just a personal dislike, if you like grillied/fried tomatoes, they should absolutely be part of your breakfast).
 
this thread cannot even get to the bottom of page 2 without people shit-stirring about it, because it is veggie breakfast.
As soon as I seen the thread title I knew it could only go one way. Quite sad really but good on Maggot for giving it a go.
 
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