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friendofdorothy said:
Are you sure its a no though? I would check with them if I was you - they could just be indecisive, disorganised or slow, unlikely but possible. Informal 'meet the team' really shouldn't be an other interview that sounds really mean of them (do the team not trust /communicate with whoever interviewed you)
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They said end of last week. Mind you I didn't get an interview invitation till after the advertised interview date had been and gone. I will drop them an email. I've had some conversation with the hiring manager on LinkedIn but probably better go via HR I think rather than put him in the position of having to give me bad news...
 
in my experience, it's unusual to get absolute silence meaning 'no' after an interview.

most organisations take longer than they think they are going to with this sort of thing (generally, the larger the organisation, the more chance of it taking longer). being only 3 working days behind isn't that big an issue.

i have had long delays before hearing anything - in some cases this has been because there's a delay in decision making (either possibility of changes, or not all the people involved in the decision have been there at the same time)

a delay can mean you're second choice and they are waiting for first choice to say yes / get through references / medical / whatever before they say 'no' to you (although most organisations won't tell you if this is what's happening)

with another organisation (that had better remain nameless) a wait of about two months led to a 'no' letter, followed a few weeks later by a phone call inviting me to a second interview at which i was offered the job... (in the end i said no to them)
 
Apparently they emailed me on Fri but I didn't get the email :facepalm:. Or the job - very close second choice. This has happened to me before with a similar job. I think it's the slight lack of technical depth.
 
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RubyToogood said:
Apparently they emailed me on Fri but I didn't get the email :facepalm:. Or the job - very close second choice it sounds like. This has happened to me before with a similar job. I think it's the slight lack of technical depth.
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Sorry to hear it's no the news you wanted xx
 
RubyToogood said:
Apparently they emailed me on Fri but I didn't get the email :facepalm:. Or the job - very close second choice. This has happened to me before with a similar job. I think it's the slight lack of technical depth.
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Well done on being a close second choice though I know close is no consolation.

Is there some course /training you could do on techie stuff? or is that too expensive?
 
friendofdorothy said:
Well done on being a close second choice though I know close is no consolation.

Is there some course /training you could do on techie stuff? or is that too expensive?
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I've been doing a lot - just finished a year long online course, and online can be really cheap or even free. But it's not quite the same as putting it into practice and having the tshirt.

I've spent a lot of time doing this kind of thing, partly fuelled by the fact that I've had a heap of job insecurity. In itself this can end up being quite stressful. I think it might be time to focus on redecorating the kitchen instead for a bit really.
 
friendofdorothy said:
Are you sure its a no though? I would check with them if I was you - they could just be indecisive, disorganised or slow, unlikely but possible. Informal 'meet the team' really shouldn't be an other interview that sounds really mean of them (do the team not trust /communicate with whoever interviewed you)
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The interview starts when you arrive on the premises and ends when you leave the premises. Everyone you meet should be assumed to part of the 'interview' process. It is naïve to think otherwise.
 
One dog said:
The interview starts when you arrive on the premises and ends when you leave the premises. Everyone you meet should be assumed to part of the 'interview' process. It is naïve to think otherwise.
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True, but I would expect to be assessed for how I got on with the team etc, but not grilled all over again about my experience which is what happened. It caught me on the back foot and my answers weren't as strong as they could have been.
 
I have an interview at a tech company for an events role on Friday. I have no idea what the company do despite having read key pages on their website and the news about them and watching a number of youtube videos :mad: :confused: :facepalm: :rolleyes:
 
Thimble Queen said:
I have an interview at a tech company for an events role on Friday. I have no idea what the company do despite having read key pages on their website and the news about them and watching a number of youtube videos :mad: :confused: :facepalm: :rolleyes:
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CIA Front company. You'd be organising 'events' in sandy places with lots of men with expensive watches from the back of a 50 year old aeroplane...
 
A380 said:
CIA Front company. You'd be organising 'events' in sandy places with lots of men with expensive watches from the back of a 50 year old aeroplane...
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I'll take it.

Forgive my whinge. Today has been a bad day. I was made to re-interview for the job I already hold, along with 18 others in my school. I am a specialist maths teacher working with those in pastoral care (aka the naughty kids) and ALN (formerly SEN) pupils. I'm fucking good at what I do. This makes no difference to a school that is failing and has been taken over by a former headmistress who hates Unions and anyone below the rank of an official teacher (I don't count as an official teacher). No senior management were on the interview panel. Just the Head of Governors (the aforementioned Headmistress) plus the deputy SENCO (the actual SENCO has been told to clear his desk by next week) and the Child Protection Officer. I could have sat there and said "Tree, Road, Telegraph Pole, Masturbation" and still had as much chance of retaining my job. It was a farce. My interview, all interviews, lasted 10 minutes. They are restructuring, refusing to talk to Unison (who are shit anyway) and have their minds already made up about the size and shape they want the school to take next year. To give you a clue how shit my school is, 3 out of 4 deputy heads have left this year as well as over half the science department.

I live in West Wales. There is nothing here. I used to dream that unemployment would never be a problem because, for want of a better word, nepotism would always work if qualified enough.

It's never worked for me. It's never going to. I'm 53. I have 3 good A levels, a degree in Politics (yeah, great choice) and fuck all qualifications in sheep farming. I haven't actually been told I've lost my job. But if there is anybody out there willing to take on a huge bet to the opposite (making every cloud etc) then let's swap bank details.

I'm pretty fucked. Pretty fucked off. Bollocks to it all.
 
planetgeli said:
I'll take it.

Forgive my whinge. Today has been a bad day. I was made to re-interview for the job I already hold, along with 18 others in my school. I am a specialist maths teacher working with those in pastoral care (aka the naughty kids) and ALN (formerly SEN) pupils. I'm fucking good at what I do. This makes no difference to a school that is failing and has been taken over by a former headmistress who hates Unions and anyone below the rank of an official teacher (I don't count as an official teacher). No senior management were on the interview panel. Just the Head of Governors (the aforementioned Headmistress) plus the deputy SENCO (the actual SENCO has been told to clear his desk by next week) and the Child Protection Officer. I could have sat there and said "Tree, Road, Telegraph Pole, Masturbation" and still had as much chance of retaining my job. It was a farce. My interview, all interviews, lasted 10 minutes. They are restructuring, refusing to talk to Unison (who are shit anyway) and have their minds already made up about the size and shape they want the school to take next year. To give you a clue how shit my school is, 3 out of 4 deputy heads have left this year as well as over half the science department.

I live in West Wales. There is nothing here. I used to dream that unemployment would never be a problem because, for want of a better word, nepotism would always work if qualified enough.

It's never worked for me. It's never going to. I'm 53. I have 3 good A levels, a degree in Politics (yeah, great choice) and fuck all qualifications in sheep farming. I haven't actually been told I've lost my job. But if there is anybody out there willing to take on a huge bet to the opposite (making every cloud etc) then let's swap bank details.

I'm pretty fucked. Pretty fucked off. Bollocks to it all.
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:(
 
planetgeli said:
I'll take it.

Forgive my whinge. Today has been a bad day. I was made to re-interview for the job I already hold, along with 18 others in my school. I am a specialist maths teacher working with those in pastoral care (aka the naughty kids) and ALN (formerly SEN) pupils. I'm fucking good at what I do. This makes no difference to a school that is failing and has been taken over by a former headmistress who hates Unions and anyone below the rank of an official teacher (I don't count as an official teacher). No senior management were on the interview panel. Just the Head of Governors (the aforementioned Headmistress) plus the deputy SENCO (the actual SENCO has been told to clear his desk by next week) and the Child Protection Officer. I could have sat there and said "Tree, Road, Telegraph Pole, Masturbation" and still had as much chance of retaining my job. It was a farce. My interview, all interviews, lasted 10 minutes. They are restructuring, refusing to talk to Unison (who are shit anyway) and have their minds already made up about the size and shape they want the school to take next year. To give you a clue how shit my school is, 3 out of 4 deputy heads have left this year as well as over half the science department.

I live in West Wales. There is nothing here. I used to dream that unemployment would never be a problem because, for want of a better word, nepotism would always work if qualified enough.

It's never worked for me. It's never going to. I'm 53. I have 3 good A levels, a degree in Politics (yeah, great choice) and fuck all qualifications in sheep farming. I haven't actually been told I've lost my job. But if there is anybody out there willing to take on a huge bet to the opposite (making every cloud etc) then let's swap bank details.

I'm pretty fucked. Pretty fucked off. Bollocks to it all.
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Sounds shit. Not that it helps but really sorry to hear that.
 
Sadly enough I have a spreadsheet with records of job applications going back over something like 14 years. Here's some stats.

  • 54.8% of my applications never received a response at all. Yep, over half of them never even bothered to say "no thanks" :(
  • A further 19.2% resulted in a simple rejection.
  • However that means 26% of my applications resulted in at least making the shortlist. A hit rate of better than 1 in 4 :)
  • and when interviewed I've been offered the position in just over 1 in 3.

Makes me feel a little better.
 
Well, looks like I might be popping into this thread in the not too distant - the owners of the firm I work for came down to see me on Friday to announce the, not unexpected at all, decision that they're going to be closing my manufacturing unit when the short term lease expires - I've seen this coming since before Christmas so, in a way, to actually have it "out in the open" means I can now start planning what to do

There are possibilities in the company, there's a project based role that would involve overseas travel, setting up "stuff" - which if I was single and it actually materialises, I'd have been ripping their arms off for, but now it has to work for all involved, not just the owners but me and Mrs Voltz, so we'll see - if it doesn't happen I'll get a bit of redundancy, not loads but a few quid - might have a holiday with it, who knows

I've had a chat this morning with a company 18 minutes from my front door, they do the same thing I've been doing for the last MmmmmMmmMmmmMmm years, they use the same software, they're understaffed and my "contact" there feels that there's a very real need to get more capacity "soon", they've got one job, being advertised internally at the moment, which I can do and have done in the past which pays OK and there's "stuff" being advertised on Monster, so the future's not great but it's not all doom and gloom and disaster . . . we shall see
 
Puddy_Tat said:
:hmm:

do you know what they do / what they want you to do yet?

or are you just going to turn up and then try and find out?

:p
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Yeah I know what they do and what I have to do!!! Basically they send medical equipment around the world. I'm going to be managing projects for different clients to make that happen. It's not my dream job but it's a good job with a global company and the people seem nice.
 
Freelancing mood: Recreating my Linkedin account. :facepalm:

I'm considering changing careers in my field, so some friends have suggested a proper linkendin profile, messaging mates who work for companies, and getting my CV seen by the right people.
 
This "looking for a job", bollocks really is bollocks :rolleyes:

Two weeks ago I had a missed call on my phone (I've just changed from an iPhone to a Sony Android and not copied my address book over so I didn't recognise the number) and I didn't call back

Then last week, whilst at work, I got a call on my work phone from an ex-colleague who's set up his own business - I assumed that he'd heard about my employment situation and wanted to do a bit of digging etc

Turned out he hadn't but that his senior operator had just put in his notice and would I fancy meeting up for a chat that could benefit both of us

So Sunday breakfast at his golf club :facepalm: was arranged and an offer of a job made (not the best money in the world and would mean commuting through Bristol :mad:)

Thought about it long and hard Monday and phoned up him on Tuesday to tell him that I'd give it a go . . . only to be told that he'd given the job to someone else in the in-between time
 
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