Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Got it! Thank you zora and friendofdorothy
The job hunting support thread
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Excellent news, Artaxerxes and Mogden. I'm popping a virtual bottle of fizz (or indeed fizzy pop as an alcohol-free celebratory alternative 
) here for you to toast job and interview offers.
) here for you to toast job and interview offers.
moonsi til
worked it out now!
yey! it's a fantastic inspirational place to work! I'm good thanks, few hiccups along the way with life but ok generally. bit battered and bruised as usualThanks mate! Hope you're well?
Mogden
I like tea
I have that interview this week for the amazed they asked me after that application job. And I received an email today about the freshly advertised one reemphasizing the odd working hours and asking if I have any queries and saying they'll be in touch for interview dates next week once they've received my reply or something else that doesn't sound so quite long winded.
I'm guessing a few candidates have had a wobble over the early and varying hours. Anyway potentially 2 interviews in 2 weeks. Not bad.
I'm guessing a few candidates have had a wobble over the early and varying hours. Anyway potentially 2 interviews in 2 weeks. Not bad.
Mogden
I like tea
Didn't get it. I was so close I could smell it. The interview went really well. She's just phoned to say I was pipped by someone who had already worked in the department. Fucking pointless applying then! But did encourage me to apply again when they want someone else so I take that to mean I'm in assuming the same doesn't happen again.
Why say it goes to someone who knows the job already! How can I compete with that? Best mate Mogden is gutted as she was sure I'd get it and I would have been working at the same place.
Having a pouty strop now. I'm probably gonna end up there eventually but my chips have been pissed on today
Why say it goes to someone who knows the job already! How can I compete with that? Best mate Mogden is gutted as she was sure I'd get it and I would have been working at the same place.
Having a pouty strop now. I'm probably gonna end up there eventually but my chips have been pissed on today
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
sorry to hear this - but try and look at it as good practice, and at least if the interveiw went well thay might remember you next time.Didn't get it. I was so close I could smell it. The interview went really well. She's just phoned to say I was pipped by someone who had already worked in the department. Fucking pointless applying then! But did encourage me to apply again when they want someone else so I take that to mean I'm in assuming the same doesn't happen again.
Why say it goes to someone who knows the job already! How can I compete with that? Best mate Mogden is gutted as she was sure I'd get it and I would have been working at the same place.
Having a pouty strop now. I'm probably gonna end up there eventually but my chips have been pissed on today
Mogden
I like tea
That seemed to be what they were hinting at in a "we didn't have a lot of choice about an internal candidate over you but we really like you". Best mate Mogden says they're always advertising so it's just patience.
Job interview for next week! It's the freshly advertised one that were supposed to mail me last week for interviews this week but whatever. It's an improvement on the warehouse jobs I was looking at earlier in the middle of nowhere again.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Got up and sent about 10 job applications this morning. Here goes the waiting for them (not) to respond....
Argonia
Happy go licky
Had my first interview today since getting made redundant and it was so shit. Lots of questions I was unprepared for and all I came out with was mush
Hopefully it went better than you thought it did. My experience of these things is that I often can't judge how well an interview has gone from their point of view - pretty much every one I've ever had I have thought went really badly with me talking a load of nonsense and floundering around but that isn't necessarily what they thought about it.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
Had my first interview today since getting made redundant and it was so shit. Lots of questions I was unprepared for and all I came out with was mush
try and treat it as practice / something to learn from and hope next one is better.
if you've not done the interview thing for a while, it does come as a bit of a shock.
i've found that more organisations now go for 'competency based' interviewing - rather than "what would you do if X happened?" it's "give me an example of a time you have done Y" - Y in the latter can be anything from a specific technical skill to something bullshit like "provided excellent customer service"
At best, it can be talking to someone who understands the job about stuff you've done in the past. At worst, it can be a robotic HR drone who knows bugger all about the job and will score you on how many of the buzzwords on their crib-sheet you come out with.
In theory, these should be skills / experiences they have said in the advert / person spec that they want - don't forget that the best example may be from study / voluntary work / caring responsibilities, not just from paid work.
And one well considered example (even if it's part BS) will go down better than struggling to think of one good example among the wide range of experience you've got.
Have fun...
Mogden
I like tea
I had a refreshingly good and different interview today. They explained they'd basically seen my competencies via my CV and covering letter, still went through a bit of this though, and that they really wanted to see how I'd fit in. Their culture and work ethic seem genuinely lovely. Interview result next week, possible second interview but they said they'd rather not do these, but my question is this.
I was told if I think of anything else I'm free to email any queries. Now do I take this to mean it would be a good idea to do so to mark myself out a bit. I do truly want to clarify and extend on something I said. Is it too needy?
I was told if I think of anything else I'm free to email any queries. Now do I take this to mean it would be a good idea to do so to mark myself out a bit. I do truly want to clarify and extend on something I said. Is it too needy?
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
dunno really.
some people advise e-mailing some sort of follow up after an interview, i can't help thinking it can come across as trying too hard.
if you genuinely think of something to ask, ask away. but don't send something just for the sake of it.
and asking in detail about pay / conditions and such is usually best done at the offer stage as it may give the wrong impression.
hope there's good news soon.
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
I would think thats an invitation to raise a query. I think if they have inacted with you, seen your name more, they may remember you more easily. I'd send a question if I was you. Make it a small question about the business/product/role/recruitment process/something they mentioned in interview maybe - shows you are keen - make it short and business like and triple check it for mistakes before you send it.
Mogden
I like tea
That's what I had in mind. Thought I might send it Monday so I don't get lost in this week's inbox. And I'm going to put a reminder here about what I want to say.
I wanted to clarify that I was very keen on maintaining a pleasant but clear working relationship with the XXX to the point where I would try as far as possible to recall their names but didn't offer mine up and was mostly referred to as lovely her on the desk who gets stuff done and done fast.
Obviously I'm not putting exactly that but I know I'll have a brain fart on Monday.
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
well you got the week end to think about it - good luck!
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wobbly
sort of found an interesting job that i can tick 3/5 of the boxes for. and i'm not too far away on a 4th and i reckon i can make myself sound fairly awesome. it's only a 6 month contract. but it's a crapton better than i'm doing atm. so i'm going to go for it. and maybee use it to head into doing something that actually uses the stuff i spent years studying
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
thats a bummer.
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
Joining this thread, have been through a big round of cuts and redundancies at work and even if I am lucky enough to stay we will have terms and conditions changes and paycuts to follow. It sucks, I don't really want to leave but I need to be able to afford to eat too. Seen a nice looking job in the children's hospital which I think I'll go for. Might as well make use of this social work qualification heh.
Mogden
I like tea
It really is. I had high hopes for it as they seemed to be a delightful company. Back to applying for dreary jobs now and swerving dodgy recruitment agencies.
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
shame. Keep you chin up.
sovereignb
Well-Known Member
Im bumping this thread...god knows i need the inspiration. Been out of work for 3 months and starting to get a little depressed. Not quite sure what i want to do (as long as its not social work which is what i was doing before). But it seems almost impossible for to jump into something completely different. How often do employers consider someone from a completely different field?
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
dunno really.
Most employers have a choice of people who have done whatever it is before, and those people are going to be seen as a safer bet.
If I'm not stating the bleeding obvious, it's going to be about how you pitch whatever experience you have (and don't forget that experience from things like voluntary work, studying, caring responsibilities might also be relevant) to match what an employer says they are looking for.
This may be easier with the sort of job where they give a fairly comprehensive job / person spec
ETA - if you're not aware, national careers service (covers all ages, not same as the 'careers service that used to cater for school leavers) may be worth a look.
Best of luck
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sovereignb
Well-Known Member
Cheers and i know all that...its just a bit offputting when you look at a job spec and you know you could do it, but they specify they want people only with "x" previous experience 
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story
Changing the facts
So I'm applying for a job. I sent the application off 24 hours before the deadline. But when I looked over it again the day following the deadline, I realised I'd sent the draft rather than the final copy. So I immediately sent the correct application together with an apology..... Only to discover the following day that due to some weird glitch, my email programme didn't actually send the email. It sent it as I started my computer up for the day.
So do I send another apology, or just let it lie now?
I'm annoyed and embarrassed but this. It looks flakey and incompetent.
So do I send another apology, or just let it lie now?
I'm annoyed and embarrassed but this. It looks flakey and incompetent.
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
Just leave it I think.
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
I moved from well paid job in publishing to an lower paid job in a charity but even that wasn't easy. I had a break, thought a lot about what I wanted in my life and did a lot of volunteering in between.
Every field seems to have its own jargon, practice, norms, expectations etc etc so even if you are applying the exact same same job in a different field (and I wasn't)- they seem want you to present yourself in completely different ways. It is possible. You've got to break down all that you have done in the past, break it all down to transferable knowledge and skills - then convince the employer that your skills are indeed relevant. Difficult bit is convincing them what positive reasons of why you want to work for them, not just 'I don't want to do x again'. Then have some positive things to say about why you want to leave x as well.
What field or job do you want to do? Perhaps there are people here in those jobs who might have hints.
Mation
real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold
How frustrating.
So they got the apology and correct version, but later than you first sent it? I think that's all you can do, really. We've all been in some sort of technological fuck up situation and can have empathy; they'll probably just see it as that.
Hope it works out
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