The Islamic state

[FNG]

looks like the blokes on either end are Brits - Help for Heroes wristbands... i'd lay odds on the bandana wearing chap with the M-16 being the American. the moustache/fag combination, plus cloosing an M-16 and wearing a bandana, swings it. he's also got a couple of US issue pouches, the one that gives it away is the light grey one - its in a pattern called ACU, it was developed for the US Army in Iraq and Afghanistan at enormous expence, and was so successful that they started replacing it two years later with a pattern based on the greeny-tan looking pouch on the other side of his belt.

wild speculation says the septic has used a rifle before, but is more 'Call-of-Duty' than he is Delta Force, i reckon the two brits have some military experience from the way they hold their rifles (though i'm not sure the big bushy beard smacks of paying close attention to the local politics). not sure about the other, presumably the German...

the uniform they are all wearing looks like a commercial rip-off of the USMC's MARPAT uniform - its got more light coloured bits in it. it doesn't exactly look ideal for the environment they're in..

war geek mode off/

wouldn't read too much into the ACU camo pouch the chinese have copied it, fakes are easily available on Aliexpress.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item-img/...Trainer-Survival-war-game-ACU/1610399504.html

 

[kebabking]

Aye, useful to be able to separate the wolves from the sheep

read the blokes profile - he's not an ACF instructor, but he's not exactly the SBS.

 

[coley]

read the blokes profile - he's not an ACF instructor, but he's not exactly the SBS.

What profile?

 

[kebabking]

What profile?

the Linkedin one from our friend - Jamie Hugues, one (but i don't know which..) of the blokes in the photo has set up what looks to me like a waltastic CP/EO type company called 'Pathfinder Group'. he can't spell, writes in capital letters, and doesn't have any clients.

his profile says that in nearly five years with 2nd Bn Mercian Regiment he did three Afghan tours. he's put some commercial CP qualifications up, but i know nothing of that tuff so can't comment on the veracity or worth of them.

 

[butchersapron]

I reckon these two are there a) get some action and b) get some other sort of action - to drum up business and establish a regional reputation for their brand new pathfinder start-up - and this is an easy access point. They're looking for at Barzani and the KRG and the new oil fields and installations around Kirkuk he has taken over and doesn't want to hand to back.

What we plan to do is give the world the knowledge it needs to protect itself from these groups by supplying detailed information and briefs. Deploying to these areas and gathering up precise information and shearing with our online members. We are providing information that can help protect people or businesses, this information could also be used to help the government understand more about the groups activities in turn helping a nation protect its citizens.

Is there a hint at falkands operations there as well?

 

[kebabking]

I reckon these two are there a) get some action and b) get some other sort of action - to drum up business and establish a regional reputation for their brand new pathfinder start-up - and this is an easy access point...

i'd agree. that doesn't mean they aren't genuinely motivated, but the options available to UK PMC's have reduced considerably with the closure of Afghanistan.

there is lots of work in the nasty world, but a couple of low level blokes aren't going to be in the running to get that work - this gives them access to future clients, experience, and exposure.

assuming whats on the profile page is true, these blokes could be quite useful to YPG - they don't need individual fighters, but they could use people who are entirely conversant with NATO procedures for bring in air strikes.

E2A: sorry, didn't see the Falklands thing, but it would be entirely normal for someone who'd spent 5 years in the Infantry to have been to the Falklands - they do it in 6 week block as part of the 'get used to doing proper war again' package after they come back from Afghanistan.

 

[peterkro]

Am I wrong in thinking that the YPG have already said they are in direct contact with the goddamns re airstrikes i.e. they are giving them locations?

 

[butchersapron]

E2A: sorry, didn't see the Falklands thing, but it would be entirely normal for someone who'd spent 5 years in the Infantry to have been to the Falklands - they do it in 6 week block as part of the 'get used to doing proper war again' package after they come back from Afghanistan.

That was just a crap joke on shearing in their start-ups blurb.

 

[kebabking]

Am I wrong in thinking that the YPG have already said they are in direct contact with the goddamns re airstrikes i.e. they are giving them locations?

i've certainly seen that - but the more you have of people able to do it the better. you can get airstrikes faster and closer if you don't have long chains of communication/authorisation to go through. its important that these people aren't high level commanders with the political swing to get this or than fancy training, but low-level people who will be out with the forward units.

war geek on/ in the 1980's the average UK infantry Bn serving in Germany had two or three people who were qualified to bring in airstrikes, now everyone has the basic skills, and the number of qualified, specialised forward air controllers has shot up to around 20 for each Bn of 600 people. WG off/...

all, of course, this depends on these people having the skills and experience they say they do...

 

[peterkro]

i've certainly seen that - but the more you have of people able to do it the better. you can get airstrikes faster and closer if you don't have long chains of communication/authorisation to go through. its important that these people aren't high level commanders with the political swing to get this or than fancy training, but low-level people who will be out with the forward units.

war geek on/ in the 1980's the average UK infantry Bn serving in Germany had two or three people who were qualified to bring in airstrikes, now everyone has the basic skills, and the number of qualified, specialised forward air controllers has shot up to around 20 for each Bn of 600 people. WG off/...

all, of course, this depends on these people having the skills and experience they say they do...

The example of the police headquarters in Kobani that was taken by IS and then obliterated by an airstrike an hour later would suggest that lines of communication are short and at least some people on the ground are skilled at what they are doing.

 

[kebabking]

The example of the police headquarters in Kobani that was taken by IS and then obliterated by an airstrike an hour later would suggest that lines of communication are short and at least some people on the ground are skilled at what they are doing.

oh absolutely - but more of a good thing is a good thing.

 

[coley]

i've certainly seen that - but the more you have of people able to do it the better. you can get airstrikes faster and closer if you don't have long chains of communication/authorisation to go through. its important that these people aren't high level commanders with the political swing to get this or than fancy training, but low-level people who will be out with the forward units.

war geek on/ in the 1980's the average UK infantry Bn serving in Germany had two or three people who were qualified to bring in airstrikes, now everyone has the basic skills, and the number of qualified, specialised forward air controllers has shot up to around 20 for each Bn of 600 people. WG off/...

all, of course, this depends on these people having the skills and experience they say they do...

And not being captured.........

 

[kebabking]

And not being captured.........

well, yes. i think the words 'bleak' and 'upsetting' would be appropriate there...

i'm very much reminded of the Brits and others who went to fight in Bosnia in the 1990's - some were genuine (in both senses of the word), but the vast majority were lunatics, fantasists, war-tourists and would-be-rapists and looters. they tended not to last long as they either ran home to mummy with a sob story and more lies, or they got found out by the groups they attached themselves to and were murdered, or they were eventually suspected of spying and murdered by the groups they attached themselves to.

if they were lucky murder meant being shot. if not...

 

[Patteran]

Singapore-based Global Executive Expert Conflict Solutions Inc seem unlikely supporters of bottom-up democratic confederalism. Someone has greedy eyes on Rojava's resources - the mercenaries apparently entered via the KRG, which might be a clue.

YPG reportedly taking an IS position on Sinjar Mountain - video via twitter (filmed from a distance but includes a killing)

 

[coley]

Singapore-based Global Executive Expert Conflict Solutions Inc seem unlikely supporters of bottom-up democratic confederalism. Someone has greedy eyes on Rojava's resources - the mercenaries apparently entered via the KRG, which might be a clue.

YPG reportedly taking an IS position on Sinjar Mountain - video via twitter (filmed from a distance but includes a killing)

Obviously not taking any prisoners!

 

[butchersapron]

These are effing huge and done for a reason - any ideas? Military bods?

edit: amazingly lazy stuff in the piece:

Kobani, situated in the north of Syria on Turkey’s southern border, has been defended by Kurdish Peshmerga soldiers, supported by US air strikes, to the north against Isis fighters attempting to claim the city from the south.

 

[kebabking]

These are effing huge and done for a reason - any ideas? Military bods?...

looks like standard 2000lb bombs to me - the effect is increaced by having them detonate both physically close together and in very short order - the first bomb shakes everything to peices and each subsequent bomb throws it higher in the air. not just spectacularly destructive, but catastrophic for enemy moralé.

probably another B-1B strike - they tootle about with 2 dozen of the things in their belly so easy to achieve the 'bang-bang-bang-bang-bang' effect, fighters however would only be able to carry a pair of them.

IS seem keen on the end of the world - lets give it to them...

 

[butchersapron]

looks like standard 2000lb bombs to me - the effect is increaced by having them detonate both physically close together and in very short order - the first bomb shakes everything to peices and each subsequent bomb throws it higher in the air. not just spectacularly destructive, but catastrophic for enemy moralé.

probably another B-1B strike - they tootle about with 2 dozen of the things in their belly so easy to achieve the 'bang-bang-bang-bang-bang' effect, fighters however would only be able to carry a pair of them.

IS seem keen on the end of the world - lets give it to them...

Why chuck them in at this point? What's the end here? Is it something you would use to people retreating? People refusing to retreat? To scare a new lot?

 

[kebabking]

Why chuck them in at this point? What's the end here? Is it something you would use to people retreating? People refusing to retreat? To scare a new lot?

it could be something as banal as 'thats what happened to be available' when the YPG rang. however i'd probably vere towards it being a planned, deliberate attack on a fixed position - the 'shock and awe' element caused by the scale/ferocity of the attack would probably be very useful as a precursor to a ground assualt by YPG. anyone with two brain cells to rub together would decide that this would be a good time to leave, and that would make the YPG's job easier.

big bombs scare the shit out of people - in the article one person mentioned stuff shaking 20km away - any IS recruit who was driving up to Kobane ought to know he's going to his death, and a death that won't achieve anything for IS except reduce its ration bill. that, for all their bravado and Martyrdom aspirations, should give them a morale problem.

 

[butchersapron]

ISIS executes nearly 1,500 people in Syria in 5 months

Doesn't touch assad levels but not for the want of trying - imagine if they had a real state:

The jihadist Islamic State group (IS) has executed nearly 1,500 people in Syria in the five months since it declared the establishment of a "caliphate", a monitoring group said Monday.

"The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights has documented the execution of 1,429 people since the IS announced its 'caliphate' in June," the group's director, Rami Abdel Rahman, said.

The majority of IS's victims in Syria have been civilians, he said.

"Of the total number of people beheaded or shot dead in mass killings by IS, 879 have been civilians, some 700 of them members of the Shaitat tribe."

 

[butchersapron]

Captured on NBC and Sky News it appeared that the explosions were a result of US missiles targeting Isis, also known as the Islamic State, who have been attempting to secure the town.

Who got done?

 

[Casually Red]

i'd agree. that doesn't mean they aren't genuinely motivated, but the options available to UK PMC's have reduced considerably with the closure of Afghanistan.

there is lots of work in the nasty world, but a couple of low level blokes aren't going to be in the running to get that work - this gives them access to future clients, experience, and exposure.

assuming whats on the profile page is true, these blokes could be quite useful to YPG - they don't need individual fighters, but they could use people who are entirely conversant with NATO procedures for bring in air strikes.

E2A: sorry, didn't see the Falklands thing, but it would be entirely normal for someone who'd spent 5 years in the Infantry to have been to the Falklands - they do it in 6 week block as part of the 'get used to doing proper war again' package after they come back from Afghanistan.

ffs..who has the money..Saudi...Qatar..or Kurds


hmg and left wing pKK types ...old chums of Assad ..versus NATO ...


ffs...pair of spies

 

[Casually Red]

well, yes. i think the words 'bleak' and 'upsetting' would be appropriate there...

i'm very much reminded of the Brits and others who went to fight in Bosnia in the 1990's - some were genuine (in both senses of the word), but the vast majority were lunatics, fantasists, war-tourists and would-be-rapists and looters. they tended not to last long as they either ran home to mummy with a sob story and more lies, or they got found out by the groups they attached themselves to and were murdered, or they were eventually suspected of spying and murdered by the groups they attached themselves to.

if they were lucky murder meant being shot. if not...

remember hearing of one cunt manning trenches for the croat fascists..British.....handing a 9mm to a reporter wanting to interview his foreign mercenary...freedom fighter charges who were in trenches with old mauser bolt actions.one welsh cunt even announcing he was warring for cymru.....even the croats wouldnt trust them with auto weapons...British twat telling the reporter hed need the 9 mm just to stay alive among those animals ...he ..the British commander..was dead weeks later...supposed friendly fire

funny...irish on both sides...god knows why

junkyard dogs of the lowest kind...but there was an effective cure

fuck your pepsi and your pizza
all we want is slivovica

 

[butchersapron]

Yeah, cutting edge.

 

[DownwardDog]

Why chuck them in at this point? What's the end here? Is it something you would use to people retreating? People refusing to retreat? To scare a new lot?

It's almost certainly 4 x GBU-31 from a B-1B or Strike Eagle. They wouldn't be used on a moving (retreating) target you either need area denial (cluster bomb, WCMD) or IR/optical guidance (AGM-65) for that.

The intended effect was likely a) kill people b) degrade infrastructure and c) force the ones it didn't kill to have a moment of sober introspection about their ongoing adventures in the Levant.

 

[seventh bullet]

remember hearing of one cunt manning trenches for the croat fascists..British.....handing a 9mm to a reporter wanting to interview his foreign mercenary...freedom fighter charges who were in trenches with old mauser bolt actions.one welsh cunt even announcing he was warring for cymru.....even the croats wouldnt trust them with auto weapons...British twat telling the reporter hed need the 9 mm just to stay alive among those animals ...he ..the British commander..was dead weeks later...supposed friendly fire

funny...irish on both sides...god knows why

junkyard dogs of the lowest kind...but there was an effective cure

fuck your pepsi and your pizza
all we want is slivovica

who makes this clear ???

who the fuck ????

who ?????????


fucking hell.... the godforsaken useless likes of strings of uberliberal pish ...like...ffs frogwoman.. who utterly despises all russians over some jewish beef ....or god forbid please heavens save us ....butchers fucking apron...is that who youre gong wth as commentators here....

ffs

the guy whos seriously ordering me not to go there...old Stalinist antifascist mate.... because im too old and uselesss is actually 3 years older than me...some useless wankers are callng the 17 young marxists who i know are already dead..killed stone dead fighting and killing fascists and open neo nazis....... mugs ...listening to these uberliberal n brxton shitebags

wattever floats yer boat

fuc off bac to your bbc...guardan whatever

 

[J Ed]

I hate that picture, the poor kitty

 

[kebabking]

ffs..who has the money..Saudi...Qatar..or Kurds(?)..

you are assuming they are either there for the money or being paid. that is not neccesarily the case, and infact given the linkedin page you supplied, i'd lay good odds on them not being paid, but being there either as geniunes, or being there to gain experience/contacts in that murky world so as to be employable in the future.

some two-bit, single bloke 'company' comprising one bloke who did 5 years in a regular Inf Bn will not be in the running to get a contract from any of the people you accuse of hiring them. the dole offices of the UK are heaving with ex-soldiers with that level of skill/experience how left at the 5 year point so they could earn mega-bucks on the PMC curcuit. the PMC curcuit isn't interested in these people.

 

[teqniq]

from fb via twitter

‪#‎Iraq‬ Iraqi forces retake Beiji oil refinery. The roads exiting and entering the facility still have remnants of ISIL fighters in the countryside, and IEDS remain a problem: AJE Sources.

e2a

erinmcunningham: Iraqi state TV rolling footage of interviews with security forces who had been trapped inside Baiji for five months. http://t.co/4FlwgM3g7X

 

[phildwyer]

funny...irish on both sides...god knows why

Spanish Civil War was the same.