The Islamic state

[Red Storm]

Spanish Civil War was the same.

More on the nationalist side too.

 

[coley]

Spanish Civil War was the same.

Link?

 

[not-bono-ever]

tons out there- google Irish Brigade

Blueshits on the whole ( yes, i spelled that wrong on purpose )

 

[coley]

Link?

Ta, good comedy

 

[Flavour]

ISIS "crippled" in Kobani

http://kurdishquestion.com/kurdista...ition-airstrikes-isis-crippled-in-kobane.html

 

[J Ed]

Another Brit killed fighting with the nonce rapists and slavers

 

[kebabking]

Another Brit killed fighting with the nonce rapists and slavers

tragic. sorry, was that two sugars?

 

[butchersapron]

Fighting update from someone who has a good rep for factual stuff:

Increased YPG activity in Kobane’s countryside (Kobane Update, Nov 23, 2014)

YPG in Kobane has fanned out in all directions. Latest statements indicate that YPG’s guerrilla units are roaming the western countryside, ambushing ISIS patrols at locations 25km from the city. YPG has also a similar presence 15km from the city in the southern countryside, and 30-35km from the city in the eastern countryside. YPG has shown no interest in capturing and holding villages in the countryside, even though there is no ISIS presence in 90% of the Kurdish villages evacuated by YPG during the first days of ISIS’ invasion of Kobane. The strategy in the countryside at this point seems to purely be a guerrilla warfa

 

[coley]

Fighting update from someone who has a good rep for factual stuff:

Increased YPG activity in Kobane’s countryside (Kobane Update, Nov 23, 2014)

The photo caption

 

[teqniq]

Revealed: UK ‘mercenaries’ fighting Islamic State terrorist forces in Syria

and from that article, they have their own fb page


https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Lions-Of-Rojava/290140627860127?fref=ts

 

[butchersapron]

Revealed: UK ‘mercenaries’ fighting Islamic State terrorist forces in Syria

and from that article, they have their own fb page


https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Lions-Of-Rojava/290140627860127?fref=ts

They're quick aren't they! That facebook page is one set up by the yank brandon thingy rather than the british mercs.

 

[Patteran]

Fighting update from someone who has a good rep for factual stuff:

Increased YPG activity in Kobane’s countryside (Kobane Update, Nov 23, 2014)

This has been alluded to for a while - YPG, irregulars, & motivated citizens operating behind the lines, & under reporting restrictions - to avoid giving IS more reasons to massacre more villages, presumably.

According to twitter's war nerds, IS are under pressure all over. YPG with Peshmerga support making gains in Kobani, Peshmerga with PKK support making gains in Jalawla & Saaidye, plus IS & the regime engaged in heavy fighting round Deir Ezzor (with reports that IS brought down a regime plane). Can we expect a burst of activity before things tail off for the winter? I don't know if snow in the mountains slows wars down anymore, or pushes it to the plains & deserts.

 

[kebabking]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/22/uk-mercenaries-fighting-islamic-state-terrorist-syria

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Lions-Of-Rojava/290140627860127?fref=ts

Christ, its an airsofters convention..

 

[teqniq]

*googles airsofters*

I will take your word for it.

 

[coley]

Christ, its an airsofters convention..

They'll mebbes find the difference in the next day or two, what puzzles me,is a couple of non Muslim types feel the urge to go there ( and I can understand the 'urge') while loads of Kurds seem quite happy to limit their involvement to protesting outside various Arab embassies?

 

[Patteran]

I'm more puzzled/interested why people do go, than don't go - not going is the norm - war is terrifying, staying at home is much easier. I understand not doing something. But making the effort to go & fight someone else's war - that's not easy nor normal. The 'lions of rojava' Facebook page is light on politics, heavy on blue steel combat selfies & images of fierce fighting women. Sex & death seem more prominent than revolution. It seems more anti than pro - but I'm not gonna sit here in Manchester & slag off anyone who's put themselves in a dangerous situation. If they're a minority, if they're useful, I guess it's not a problem on the ground - they might be proper effective soldiers. And it does makes good propaganda (particularly in news outlets that think western approval of a cause gives it extra interest & validation).

 

[not-bono-ever]

http://rt.com/uk/208175-sas-secret-attack-isis/

"British SAS troops have been conducting secret missions that have killed hundreds of Islamic State militants. Using quad bikes and 4x4’s in Iraq, they have been seeking out enemy forces usually at night, killing up to eight terrorists a day"

tbhis has been popping up in the last day or so - the daily mail says about 200 dead so far - not sure how much is bluff/ propaganda - probs lots...

 

[DownwardDog]

ISIS/ISIL/Daesh are going to start minting their own gold dinars. This is good news for those of us with stock in Newcrest but I don't know how it will work out if you're trying to buy a dishwasher in Raqqa.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors...un-as-islamic-state-mints-its-own-gold-dinar/

 

[kebabking]

ISIS/ISIL/Daesh are going to start minting their own gold dinars. This is good news for those of us with stock in Newcrest but I don't know how it will work out if you're trying to buy a dishwasher in Raqqa.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors...un-as-islamic-state-mints-its-own-gold-dinar/

why would you need a dishwasher Brother, is your woman broken?*

(*IS humour, before Millie Tant drags the thread off into a bunfight...)

 

[not-bono-ever]

perfect way to justify the monetarization of looted spoils

 

[kebabking]

...the daily mail says about 200 dead so far - not sure how much is bluff/ propaganda - probs lots...

if its in the Fail, its utter, made up bollocks. of the non-specialist press, the Grinaud seems to be the most informed about Defence stuff. the Torygraph used to be pretty good, but it went onto a sensationalist bent many years ago and accurate reporting and informed analysis went out of the window. the rest are just as bad.

 

[bluescreen]

I thought Patrick Cockburn of the Indy was better than the rest?
And Robert Fisk is sometimes bonkers but he lives in Lebanon and can be illuminating.

 

[butchersapron]

I thought Patrick Cockburn of the Indy was better than the rest?
And Robert Fisk is sometimes bonkers but he lives in Lebanon and can be illuminating.

I used to think that about Cockburn but have become rather critical of him after reading his short book on ISIS - now that i'm actively looking for gaps, for things that he fills in with unnamed unverified sources are all over the place, and now that i can do some of my own work in researching the incidents he is talking about, i simply don't trust him any more.

 

[Dogsauce]

if its in the Fail, its utter, made up bollocks.

Potentially dangerous bollocks too, if they want to stir up beardies into carrying out attacks in this country. Sometimes it's more useful to not have this stuff reported.

 

[Patteran]

I used to think that about Cockburn but have become rather critical of him after reading his short book on ISIS - now that i'm actively looking for gaps, for things that he fills in with unnamed unverified sources are all over the place, and now that i can do some of my own work in researching the incidents he is talking about, i simply don't trust him any more.

The longer I spend on this thread, the less I trust Cockburn's analysis. He seems better at the 'who, what, when, where' than the 'why'. Fisk tends towards the converse, maybe.

 

[likesfish]

Trained soldiers see a black and white struggle and a chance to lend a hand.
You cant get a less complex fight than is on one side vs anybody else frankly.
Both the brits had served in afghaistan so no what they are getting into.

 

[coley]

ISIS/ISIL/Daesh are going to start minting their own gold dinars. This is good news for those of us with stock in Newcrest but I don't know how it will work out if you're trying to buy a dishwasher in Raqqa.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors...un-as-islamic-state-mints-its-own-gold-dinar/

Good way to launder and stash their cash

 

[gorski]

why would you need a dishwasher Brother, is your woman broken?*

This must find its way to "Goodness Gracious Me" of sorts, for sure...

 

[DownwardDog]

Good way to launder and stash their cash

The gold dinars are just for the normal punters to stop them falling foul of zionist machinations like usury, online poker and car leases. The head beardies (© BA) will be stashing their loot in Panama, Dubai, Bitcoins, Western Sydney real estate, etc.

 

[butchersapron]

This was on the world service last night - it's an 'interview' with jamie read.