coley
Well-Known Member
Aye,as long as tourism ain't one of them, because that's going to be one dead duck.
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Aye,as long as tourism ain't one of them, because that's going to be one dead duck.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
"New video released by ISIS. Shows them inside #Kobane, At times walking calmly in streets as there are no airstrikes "
tbh you're not seeing much evidence of actual fighting - or even hearing it. that man with the heavy machine gun at the end, not a very long belt of bullets. the man firing off the roof: the cameraman very careful not to peep round the corner. the people running one by one - towards the end it was obvious there's very little chance of incoming fire. wherever they are in kobane it's not where anything much is going on.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
when were the days when turkey cared how it was seen by the one-dimensional western media? or did you just invent them?
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
If they are incompatable there will be war. IS is not going to have any neighbour let alone a Muslim one have US bases. If there is compatability there will also be war, for control.
teqniq
DisMembered
Pickman's model thanks, I kinda posted it here in case I wanted to watch it later as I'm presently on a mobile connection. Vids are a bit of a pain to watch, but it looks like maybe you've saved me the trouble. 
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
there's a shot of one of them using a sledgehammer on a wall. and there's a shot of someone firing an rpg. but it's not an action movie, it's really rather dull.Pickman's model thanks, I kinda posted it here in case I wanted to watch it later as I'm presently on a mobile connection. Vids are a bit of a pain to watch, but it looks like maybe you've saved me the trouble.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
One of the big differences between Turkish Islamism and Islamist fighters around the globe is that key Turkish islamists have vested interests in the state.
They have no interest in over throwing their own wealth.
They have no interest in over throwing their own wealth.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the difference, it seems to me, is rather larger as turkish islamists do not appear to be millenarian whereas the likes of aq and isis are rather more apocalyptick. and turkish islamists seem to be more national than the internationalists (or pan-nationalists) of isis.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
I'm sure if their capital was ripped away the leaders may consider using cheap and easy devices like is and aq do to form an identity.
They want to promote bourgeois lifestyle as it directly benefits them.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
but without the likes of sandi toksvig or sue perkins
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
I would watch the Islamist version of The Great British Bake Off.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
today's technical challenge is to put together an ied detonated by a camera flash.
you have two hours
alright bombers - ready - steady - bomb!
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
The Turks do have an odd relationship with homosexuality but that is for another thread.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Not going to be much room for tourists with all the refugees Turkey has taken in. Over 1 million by June this year.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/19/us-syria-crisis-turkey-idUSKBN0EU0NV20140619
A few more than the 500 or so the UK has let in.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
coley
Well-Known Member
Your point being?
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Tourism, dead ducks and refugees.
I´m afraid so.
I´m not at all happy about it. As I´ve mentioned before, I spent the summer of 2013 wandering the streets of Istanbul, banging on a drum, and shouting "Tayyip Istafa" at the top of my voice. Much good it did me.
The Ottoman Empire? It lasted about a thousand years, so I´d say it had a pretty good run. Especially when compared to the British versión.
The Turkish state is very far from supporting anything IS does, except fight against the PKK.
But they´re willing to let their enemies fight each other, while they stand back and watch. That´s just basic realpolitik.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
...while you watch and wank about it by the sounds of your posts here.
You display the same attitude here as the AKP cunts who think that Kobane is full of terrorists who have brought murder, rape and enslavement upon themselves because they are terrorists.
What is this, some new kind of Imperialism of the Left?
In 1973 OPEC started to demand a fair price for their oil, as opposed to the imperialists´price, which had been imposed on them by forcé and/or the threat of forcé.
Why do you think this insistence on being treated as an equal partner amounts to some coercive "strapping over a barrel" (whatever that means)?
Would you prefer that we took their oil for pennies, as we once did?
No it won´t. Any violence will be far from either Bodrum or Antalya, the two main generators of tourist revenue. Istanbul might not be the safest place in the world, but then it never has been.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Yes indeed.
And Turkey was not at all prepared for, or remotely capable of dealing with, such a sudden and massive influx of non-Turks. It´s already causing massive problems in Istanbul, which presumably means it´s even worse in the south and east.
When the UK takes in a few hundred thousand refugees, their lectures to Turkey might receive a slightly more sympathetic hearing.
I´m the only person in this discussion who actually has something at stake here.
The likes of ButchersApron, screaming for war from their armchairs, are the mastubatory audience.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I dunno. What left and right mean is different in different countries. And the Kurds are certainly God botherers.
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