coley
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Not really,when faced with western troops they take recourse to car/ suicide bombs, sniping etc.
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littlebabyjesus
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Where do they come from, though? Why do they exist in the first place? How do they continue to recruit?
coley
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Now 18 dead, BBC news.
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coley
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Initially part of the anti Syrian gov/ Assad movement, Affiliated with AQ, funded and equipped by the people supporting the various anti Assad forces ( another can of worms there) but went their own merry way after falling out with the AQ leadership, that's my, limited, knowledge of their origins.
SpookyFrank
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Does the giant meteor have a gofundme page? I think I wanna donate to his cause tbh.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
That's roughly my understanding, too. In other words, an offshoot of forces armed in part by the West to fight one of their secular bogeymen. Like the Taliban, who emerged from the mujahadeen fighting the Soviets. But although armed by the West, they hate the West, and Western intervention acts as a recruiting sergeant, no?
A common factor in this - Saudi Arabia and Saudi money. So what does the West do in relation to the Saudis?
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He's not accepting donations at this time, mainly because any funds accepted would become worthless by the time he arrives.
butchersapron
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They came from Iraq - from the AQ in Iraq people who were expelled from Iraq by the sunni tribes. They are the foreign fighters who legged it over the border. The idea that they are anti-syrian regime is laughable. They are made of of cunts he let out of prison to cause havoc in Iraq during the invasion.
butchersapron
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A great actual talking about the situation not a wanky i'm a well paid oxbridge prof on the internet stuff piece.
Untangling the Turkish-Kurdish-IS Debacle
Untangling the Turkish-Kurdish-IS Debacle
weltweit
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The point I was making was that the UK does not need to do anything, it is not our war, unless you believe our and Americas actions in Iraq directly caused it in which case some might think we might be obliged to do something.
coley
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Buys lots of their nice oil.
butchersapron
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How come all white reverts have ginger beards?
coley
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Makes some good points, a first step would be to allow the Kurds to reinforce Kobane.
butchersapron
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A very important point - not for Turkey to intervene but to allow kurdish people to intervene. Also. Stop treating IS fighters in turkish hospitals and letting them back over.
Buckaroo
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J Ed
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That shitty far-right 'libertarian' site Breitbart had an article asking that. It is kind of true though, there seem to be a disproportionate number of ginger Islamists...
butchersapron
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Oh god, i did not mean to in anyway add cred to their nonsense. It's the ginger beard with diff hair though - i've got black hair, i grow a mighty ginger beard.
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butchersapron
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As for on the ground coalition forces - training won't start for 3-5 months tops. That's from the pentagon.
andysays
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given the fact that terrorist actions frequently, not to say generally or deliberately, affect the innocent as much as the "guilty", I'm not sure that your idea of a distinction between provoked and unprovoked terrorism really stands up, TBH...
Has any more light been shed on the allegations made by the Turkish opposition CHP regarding the Directorate of the Religious Affairs (DİB) providing guesthouses for fighters? http://www.todayszaman.com/news-350829-chp-requests-parliamentary-inquiry-into-isil-funding.html
Turkey has absolutely no reason to do any of that. Turkey's main enemy is the PKK.
coley
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There was a truce in place and they were engaged in peace talks, seems the Turks mebbes think ISIS will provide a more permanent 'solution'
butchersapron
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What truce? What peace talks? Given that they are not at war, wtf are you on about?
coley
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Solution process (Turkish: Çözüm süreci),[1]also known as the Kurdish–Turkish peace process,[2] is an ongoing peace process, which aims to resolve the Kurdish–Turkish conflict. The conflict has been ongoing since 1984 and resulted in some 40,000-100,000 mortal casualties and great economic losses for Turkey as well as high damage to the Kurdish population. Though there was a unilateral cease-fire between 1999 and 2004, the sides failed to gain understanding and the conflict became increasingly violent. The 2013 truce was working until September 2014, when it ended due to spillover of the Syrian Civil War.
butchersapron
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That's between the PKK and turkey. Not ISIS and turkey.
coley
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"Turkey has absolutely no reason to do any of that. Turkey's main enemy is the PKK"
My reply was in answer to PD and was made to point out that at present the PPK isn't Turkey's " main enemy"
butchersapron
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Sorry - i've put phil dywer on ignore. Realise that you weren't talking to me now.
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