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flypanam

flypanam

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The press and tv news are suggesting it’s the season when overpaid landlords and farmers look to regain their jobs. a general election is coming up we should have a thread for what could be a fairly dull affair with SF in trouble and FFG doing well in the polls.

In one news story heather humphreys is stepping down as she feels she can no longer has the energy for the job.

Anyway news, views and any rumours welcome here.
 
Anyway - my guess is that all the SF- bashing will be effective within the "People Who Read the Irish Times" bubble, and not much beyond it.

My prediction for the ultimate outcome is a FF/SF coalition, with a few mudguards to make up the numbers, maybe. The rotating Taoiseach system will apply, with Mary-Lou taking over from Míchael about a year or two in.

And nothing will fundamentally change. Sorry guys.
 
Finance Bill has been passed by the Dail.. election looks likely to be Nov 29, three weeks from Friday. Short campaign times but all parties raring to go with posters and campaigns..
 
No sign of People Before Profit posters where I am, it's all labour, Greens, and FF/FG.

And the poor simpleton who wants to "Make Crime Illegal".

Speaking of crime. . . there's a famous cold case that has just got hot again. And if what I'm reading is true - and I genuinely hope it isn't - this could blow the whole race wide open.
 
Idris2002 said:
No sign of People Before Profit posters where I am, it's all labour, Greens, and FF/FG.

And the poor simpleton who wants to "Make Crime Illegal".

Speaking of crime. . . there's a famous cold case that has just got hot again. And if what I'm reading is true - and I genuinely hope it isn't - this could blow the whole race wide open.
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All I heard was they arrested a man in his 50s?
 
685 candidates, apparently a record. Louth has 25 candidates, a record for a single constituency.
 
Some interesting colour in this
www.politico.eu

Trump’s shadow hangs over Ireland’s impossible-to-call election

A record number of independents — including far-right agitators aping MAGA rhetoric — compete with establishment parties fearful of drawing Trump’s ire in a country dependent on American multinatio…
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu
"The biggest and most incalculable new factor on the campaign trail is the rise of hardline micro-parties and “independents,” many of them inspired by Trump and seeking to fill the void on the thinly populated right of politics here. The latest poll makes the independents, on 21 percent support and rising, competitive with Fine Gael (23 percent), Fianna Fáil (20 percent) and Sinn Féin (18 percent)."
 
ska invita said:
Some interesting colour in this
www.politico.eu

Trump’s shadow hangs over Ireland’s impossible-to-call election

A record number of independents — including far-right agitators aping MAGA rhetoric — compete with establishment parties fearful of drawing Trump’s ire in a country dependent on American multinatio…
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu
"The biggest and most incalculable new factor on the campaign trail is the rise of hardline micro-parties and “independents,” many of them inspired by Trump and seeking to fill the void on the thinly populated right of politics here. The latest poll makes the independents, on 21 percent support and rising, competitive with Fine Gael (23 percent), Fianna Fáil (20 percent) and Sinn Féin (18 percent)."
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It's not only twitter that Irish fash are using. Last few years on Facebook it's got very unpleasant, they target SF TDs and councillors, posts to do with Dublin, RTE, the Eurovision!!, athletics, property articles...

Even hearing from a few friends banging on about "looking after our own first" and how "Ireland is full". It's extremely depressing, especially as a few of them live outside of the country.

I remember Andy Irvine at a gig in June, saying not to be complacent or laugh, because these fuckers are getting votes. He's not wrong. Dreading the results. Wish the diaspora were able to participate. But then again, after hearing aforementioned pals...
 
krtek a houby said:
Even hearing from a few friends banging on about "looking after our own first" and how "Ireland is full". It's extremely depressing, especially as a few of them live outside of the country.
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I was chatting to this retired Dubliner in my village pub yesterday, she's been in the UK since she was 19, and said how depressing it was recently visiting family and old friends in Dublin, because of that. :(
 
krtek a houby said:
It's not only twitter that Irish fash are using. Last few years on Facebook it's got very unpleasant, they target SF TDs and councillors, posts to do with Dublin, RTE, the Eurovision!!, athletics, property articles...

Even hearing from a few friends banging on about "looking after our own first" and how "Ireland is full". It's extremely depressing, especially as a few of them live outside of the country.

I remember Andy Irvine at a gig in June, saying not to be complacent or laugh, because these fuckers are getting votes. He's not wrong. Dreading the results. Wish the diaspora were able to participate. But then again, after hearing aforementioned pals...
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I thought it was common knowledge Ireland is historically depopulated... The We're Full is particularly ridiculous in this context
 
Well, tomorrow's the big day. Looks the Big Two want to ride back into government with the Bacik Brigade . . .

I think there might not be the numbers for either an FG/FF/Lab coalition or an Amazing Adventures of Mary-Lou show either.
 
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that’s probably the correct assessment. Can’t really call it.

Here the shinners have been the machine, two visits to the house. Plenty of people in town on The weekends too.

I think they may just take that third seat here.

The plethora of rightwingers have been so prominent in our village but they have managed to get leaflets through the door.

Anyway I wonder just how well The Monk will do? A mate from D1 says Hutch has quite a good campaign and using Tony Gregory as a model is/was good for Hutch.
 
flypanam said:
that’s probably the correct assessment. Can’t really call it.

Here the shinners have been the machine, two visits to the house. Plenty of people in town on The weekends too.

I think they may just take that third seat here.

The plethora of rightwingers have been so prominent in our village but they have managed to get leaflets through the door.

Anyway I wonder just how well The Monk will do? A mate from D1 says Hutch has quite a good campaign and using Tony Gregory as a model is/was good for Hutch.
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Whaaaa?

How can a criminal run for.. oh, wait. Nevermind.
 
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flypanam said:
that’s probably the correct assessment. Can’t really call it.

Here the shinners have been the machine, two visits to the house. Plenty of people in town on The weekends too.

I think they may just take that third seat here.

The plethora of rightwingers have been so prominent in our village but they have managed to get leaflets through the door.

Anyway I wonder just how well The Monk will do? A mate from D1 says Hutch has quite a good campaign and using Tony Gregory as a model is/was good for Hutch.
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Just voted. Number one:

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ska invita said:
I thought it was common knowledge Ireland is historically depopulated... The We're Full is particularly ridiculous in this context
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since when does facts stop cunts being cunts.. have heard and seen some of the shite doing the rounds when i've been talking to people and been back home , Facebook
is a cess pit but then again it targeting old folks , the housing situation has made a hell of a lot of people more racist. that and foreign influence ( american and uk fash)
is going to lead to wins for the right in todays elections .
 
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krtek a houby said:
New civil war due with the rise of the far right?
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Someone has Diaspora fever I see

Here's a comment I just nicked from the Cedar Lounge site:

"I should have learned by now to not even look for an optimistic take, but the (very) broad left vote here – including SF/SD/GR/LP/PbP + one or two more – is going to be in the region of 40%. Not close enough and not really much different from 2020 and that’s frustrating – but unimaginable in my youth.

And the FFFG vote continues its long, long (and slow, slow) slide.

One day soon, lads….one day soon"
 
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