Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
nothing that makes your lungs hurt is funBecause hills are fun
That said, ebikes are brilliant. They open up cycling to groups of people that otherwise wouldn’t.
The Cycling Chat Thread
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
apart from bucket bongs
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
E bikes are heavy, I have had to adjust the way I ride, making sure I am in the right gear in advance as pulling away in a high gear drains the battery and the motor likes a high cadence. Also you use your upper body a lot more, my arms are getting like Popeye's. Was off the road for three weeks with a charging issue, luckily Canyon's UK service centre is fairly local, in Chessington, (YT's is walking distance from home, so would have been better). Neither Canyon nor Shimano know what went wrong but they replaced the motor and all the electrics in the end. Bike came with a 4 year warranty, which isn't too shabby. Went out Thursday for 30 miles, yesterday for 30 and today for 15, that just would never have happened on the analogue bike. Good for physical health and also for mental health, bar the poor sod bashing his shoulder today.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
It’s type 2 fun.
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
Exactly , witnessing your descent can be so exhilarating, did I climb all this ?Because hills are fun
You don't need an expensive bike to climb, just a light bike will do.
I'll agree hills can be hard, I normally have one ride in early spring that destroys me and I want to give up.....and then a summer of cycling.
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Max Mosley liked cycling up hills.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
That's not a positive. You can see batteryshaggers on bike paths here tooling along at 25km/h with zero bike handling skills and subsequent pile ups.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
comes to the aid of pro-mtb-er who's had a, er, pile up.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
And here I see older people out in the fresh air, couples who otherwise couldn’t ride together enjoying themselves etc etc
There’s absolutely no way we could have done this together on road bikes. He just isn’t fit enough. I think I could have, but it would have been the sole focus and there would have been times I would have significantly struggled (had to stop and been utterly exhausted and worried I wasn’t gonna make it). With the ebikes it’s… fun. And that’s okay 
I think beesonthewhatnow has the right attitude
iamwithnail
Well-Known Member
Yeah that’s a lot of weird gatekeeping tbh
BigTom
Well-Known Member
No way. Cycling is serious business for serious people. Things were great when it was all penny farthings, then the safety bicycle came along and anyone could ride a bike! It's all been downhill since then. Or should that be uphill since we're talking about bicycles and downhill is the best direction for hills to go in.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
I become an complete fan of eBikes when one of the older guys at my club got one. It means he can still come out on the big group rides with all his mates twice a week. 50 to 60 miles or more, still doing the tough climbs etc.
He’s 84.
He’s 84.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
You just need gears tbf, I'm glad I put a 32 on the back before I went to Devon.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
i’ve had this similar arguments with djs who slag off digital djing and using sync to mix tracks together. if it makes things easier, then why not use those tools? then you have more time for selection
han
love is the answer
Brilliant! Yes, this is what it's all about. Accessibility for everyone. The more people who are able to cycle, who want to, the better for us all. We don't need any more tribalism.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Our club actually split into two over batteryshagging. It was like when the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine departed from the PLO Executive Committee.
The Rejectionist faction now campaigns under the banner of CRUSH PEDALS OR FUCK OFF.
The Rejectionist faction now campaigns under the banner of CRUSH PEDALS OR FUCK OFF.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Is this your club? Amish - Wikipedia
Every time something new comes along one group of Amish decide it is OK and another decides it is ungodly and they split.
You should have a word with the wankers in the rejectionist group who use gears on their bikes, cheating bastards that they are.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Part of the reason cycling is niche and treated like an middle class indulgence is the self selecting bias towards the only cyclists capable of enjoying the roads being masochists and testosterone junkies. Cue the final output of 50-60 years of that being the lesser spotted MAMIL.
Its good that's being overturned but those attitudes and subsequent contempt by car users towards cyclists are fairly baked in, it'll be a while till they go.
klang
klang
not blaming individuals for having fun, but the whole e bike, e scooter and e car thing worries me. climate change is real, it needs tackling here and now. surely producing millions and millions of batteries that need charging and are likely to end in landfills raises more questions than it answers...
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
aye, it’s my idea of a nightmare. i like cycling cos it’s solitary. and would only probably enjoy cycling with one close friend or a small group of them. there’s no way i’d enjoy competing in anything let alone with my club mates. my enjoyment of cycling is only telic in the sense of wanting to get from A to B, otherwise it is without goals and purely for fun. i don’t even bother with measuring how far i’ve gone or how fast i’ve gone anymore as it just gets in the way and complicates the pure fun i get out of the only physical activity i enjoy (bar walking)I just deal with that sort of ridiculous judgy bullshit by simply not being a member of a club
Oh my god I’m enjoying this SO MUCH. The route is spectacular, it’s just turn after turn of stunning countryside, views, lanes thick with wild flowers, stone circles, mountain passes, and downhill stretches.
Its also very clearly signposted so navigation is a no brainer, the surfaces are wonderful, and almost entirely car free. Its not always that things exceed your expectations in this country but this is very well done. It’s an absolute joy.
Its also very clearly signposted so navigation is a no brainer, the surfaces are wonderful, and almost entirely car free. Its not always that things exceed your expectations in this country but this is very well done. It’s an absolute joy.
BigTom
Well-Known Member
I think the key here is in creating and enforcing legislation that will make manufacturers responsible for recycling batteries. Renault currently recycle 100% of their batteries so it is possible to do: Electric cars: What will happen to all the dead batteries?
I think the urgency of climate change outweighs the end-of-life issue of lithium-ion batteries, which can be recycled. There is more environmental issues I think in the production of the batteries and especially the mining of lithium. I also think the production of nickel is terrible but I can't remember for sure if Li-On batteries use nickel or if I'm thinking of the old nickel-cadmium batteries which household batteries were some time ago.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
And the batteries last quite a while, for my bike they say that after 1000 charges you will have 60% life left. 1000 charges is ~60 miles a day, every day for three years, 60,000 miles, a distance which until recently was very much the half life of a car.
I thought I was being very environmentally good due to not causing any emissions! Just goes to show you can never win at this stuff.
I’ve seen another couple of bikes packed like that instead of panniers. What’s the benefit? Are you staying in B&Bs or camping (surely not with that pack size?). Are the kids coming? Need more trip details!Edie how fantastic to see you totally bitten by the cycling bug
We are off on our hols for a couple of days tomorrow to Mull to camp. Forecast is pretty braw!
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And yes, it’s fun cycling! I’d never have thought it’d be for me tbh. Too outdoorsy and fit. But I’ve so enjoyed it this summer.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
Camping. We also have Mr W's bike packed the same way, a smallish rucksack (me) and a post bag/courier bag (him) with a 3-man tent in it. This is the luxury version of doing this for us (we have a much smaller lightweight tiny tent for wild camping which would just go in one of the bike bags) because it's the first time we've tried camping since he got ill and a bit of extra space/privacy for changing etc seems wise. And we're using an actual campsite with toilet/shower facilities.
Why this kind of bags? Because you can't fit normal pannier racks to these bikes (no frame eyelets/the geometry doesn't work - especially on my tiny bike).
Edit, no kids this time, they're at their dad's.
