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I've taken several 999 calls which go along the lines of 'I've just stabbed my boyfriend'. It does happen. It's weird talking to people and knowing you are in a kind of half world, as soon as you put the phone down real life is going to rush in with full force, and it's never going to be the same again.... But just right now you are still you, and everything hasn't changed.
i note she didn't dial 999
 
Brilliant bit of radio but given the fact they've working with domestic abuse charities, it would have been more realistic/helpful if she'd just left.


Did anyone else have thunder right on cue?

You know that on average women leave 12 times before leaving for good? It's more likely she would stay than go.

E2a I know the story line isn't just her staying and putting up but felt it was worth saying.
 
IRL, most DV victims don't stab/ murder their abusers.

Not that I'm doubting you at all wiskey obvs but it's not the usual ending. More women are killed.

I would have liked to see/ hear her get away.

more women are killed it's true, but perhaps men don't immediately ring 999 asking for an ambulance, I've never dealt with a call like that. Either relatives ring or the police get the call first.

I too would have liked it to not end in violence like that. for all the build up it seemed a bit blunt ... her leaving, failing, leaving again etc seems more realistic
 
It's the more dramatic story line but the less likely outcome I think. Retaliating isn't as uncommon as it might be perceived but stabbing less likely than say smacking them one.
 
Oh shit we've got six months of trial now (assuming he is indeed a gonner).

Was thinking the other day - he's hit her but there's very little you can put your finger on that he's actually said. And of course lots of witnesses to say how loving and attentive he was and how erratic she's been.

Eta: yeh bastards :mad: making me listen early.
 
It has all been a bit sudden - feels like they've looked at all the 'oh god it's going on forever' comments. Either that or Rob hasn't been able to handle all the hate mail.

There have been loads of complaints about how long it's going on for and how unrealistic the whole thing is, Woman's Hour took it up and interviewed a woman whose sister had been in almost exactly the same situation and they had a woman on from Woman's Aid she was great.

I almost went on a twitter rant campaign, it was going on for a very short amount of time compared to real life, I think they've done the story really well though, I suppose people get bored of the same story line going on for too long.

I do hope they've helped some folk recognise similar patterns of behavior in partners and to maybe seek help before things get really bad.
 
The abuse of Ambridge's Helen Titchener by her husband Rob is difficult to listen to. His horrifyingly effective campaign to break his wife and crush her spirit has left Archers fans shouting at the radio, urging Helen to fight back.

So, to celebrate International Women's Day this week, Broadcasting House has imagined that moment for you. "I finally saw you," Helen says. "Why didn't I see what a monster you were?"

We asked the Shakespearean actress Fiona Shaw to bring this imaginary speech, written by former Archers scriptwriter Carolyn Sally Jones, to life.

The Archers: the speech everyone wants Helen to make, Broadcasting House - BBC Radio 4
 
I almost went on a twitter rant campaign, it was going on for a very short amount of time compared to real life, I think they've done the story really well though, I suppose people get bored of the same story line going on for too long.

I do hope they've helped some folk recognise similar patterns of behavior in partners and to maybe seek help before things get really bad.

Whilst I agree that in real life these things go on for years, lifetimes, this *has* been going on for years but is a soap/drama and is not real life. You have to find a balance in a situation like this and I think they failed on that front. But as you say, if they've helped other women recognise they are in similar situations, then well, of course it's been worth it.

Anyway, I've just listened to last night's and I found the whole thing extremely emotional as I have done with quite a few of Helen's scenes the last couple of weeks. He might well be dead with one stab wound, if she got him just below rib cage at the right angle - lots of vital organs there. Or leg, penetrating major artery, or neck even. There'd be lots of blood mind you, so we'll see, but it wouldn't be that much of a fluke...
 
It's like they spent ages and ages setting something up properly and then first Kirsty gives Helen a secret phone, which I thought was as a bit premature, and then they want the story finished and it reaches the most dramatic conclusion possible straight away.
 
You know that on average women leave 12 times before leaving for good? It's more likely she would stay than go.

E2a I know the story line isn't just her staying and putting up but felt it was worth saying.
Yes, and at one point I did think she was going to stay.

I think the whole story line so far has been an interesting (if at times frustrating) example of the tension between the need for narrative excitement, and the way in which the BBC have promoted it as reflecting real situations. They've made great play of the fact that they've been working with DV charities to ensure accuracy in in the story but at key points they jettison that accuracy for the sake of the drama.
 
I really really hope, if he is dead, that they don't do some cobbled together cover up. I don't think I could bear that, and would definitely stop listening.
 
She's definitely got enough to power a defence along the lines of temporary loss of sanity (the phrase escapes me), after all Rob has been forcing her to see shrinks etc.

Shula will have to come forward about the hunt sab incident though.
 
It's like they spent ages and ages setting something up properly and then first Kirsty gives Helen a secret phone, which I thought was as a bit premature, and then they want the story finished and it reaches the most dramatic conclusion possible straight away.

Yes - I felt her immediately phoning Rob's ex after getting the phone was surprisingly premature, too.
 
What about the blood? There'd have been masses. Helen would be covered in it. But Henry didn't seem to notice. You'd think he'd say 'Mummy, why are you bleeding?' and thcream.
 
If he survives, he'll try and take Henry away..... So that could be more tension and Rob evilness

Mixed feelings. It's caused loads of people to talk about it, there are articles and stuff on chat programmes etc so maybe it will do some 'good' as a storyline. It's been very well done but a very uncomfortable listen.... So maybe they just needed to end it before it got too uncomfortable
 
Radio 4 interviewed a QC today who said that Helen had a possible defence of "self defence of her child".
 
Sean O'Connor, the editor who is leaving to work on EastEnders, "will remain with The Archers until late Spring" according to the announcement of his departure. So maybe the rather hurried conclusion is being done to wrap things up on his reign, leaving the new editor with a clean slate?
 
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