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So I am confused... Ursula wants Helen to have a home birth but Rob doesn't?

And are they trying to move Henry out to Pat & Tony's?
 
I think they're trying to make it look like Helen can't cope with Henry and that she's violent towards him so it's easier to get custody after the birth either of both of them or just the new baby and then leaving a very much misbehaving Henry in her care. I assume both so they leave her devasted. Very odd but unfortunately not unlike real life for some :(
 
I don't understand why Pat and Tony thought bringing Henwee round after all the shouting was a good idea. Surely giving Helen and Henwee some time and space to cuddle and for Helen to talk to H would have been better. Unless of course P&T really are going to buy into the framing of Helen as having some sort of psychosis.
 
Did we actually hear any of Helens supposed shouting, or only reported versions? I missed the first few minutes of Wednesday n Thursday's shows, and will listen again, if there's anything to listen to.

It is bizarre how the pigs have a Facebook account, but no human beings seem to
 
No, the 'shouting' was all reported by Ursula. The whole episode was fishy - would a 5yr old going from being so upset by his mother shouting to completely silent acquiesence in the time it takes to drive to Bridge Farm?
 
Ursula must be jolly fit to keep a sleeping five year old on her shoulder, given that she's not been in practice. That's about 20kg for a woman who must be in her 60s.
 
ISTR she made some reference to carrying him, and that he'd be fine sleeping on her shoulder for a little while longer. Plus what you said.
 
The toenail clippings of the ferrets were a welcome light relief. A wife who will let you cut your ferrets toenails in the bedroom has a price beyond rubies I imagine. I get arsey if there are pants on the floor.
I thought that was a lovely scene, especially when she told him off for not thinking he was intelligent enough for college.
 
I'm confused by him.

Is he actually upset that Helen hasn't worked out how he wanted (cowed and prim and proper but not mad and incapable)?

And how come his mother didn't interfere when they rowed?
 
They're doing this DV story line really well, all the head-fuck stuff he is doing to Helen is so true to the real world.

It freaked me out a bit today actually :(

I'm confused by him.

Is he actually upset that Helen hasn't worked out how he wanted (cowed and prim and proper but not mad and incapable)

He'd be upset by anything she did, there doesn't need to be a reason, he's making it up as he goes along.
And how come his mother didn't interfere when they rowed

My MIL blamed me even after she'd seen me with my face smashed up, I'm sure it's pretty common, the denial
 
((((lizzieloo)))) :(

Thank god that they've finally started giving a DV number. Shame it took them a smack round the face to do that - the abuse started a very long time ago
Sometimes it takes a smack in the face for abused women to seek help. Sometimes it takes even more abuse. :(
 
It's rare that I listen to the radio, staring it it from a only couple of inches away. Tonight's episode had me doing that.

For all that I hate about the Helen/Rob storyline, it's damn fine radio drama.
 
I know but the BBC isn't abused. So it could have broadcast that number a bit earlier. I think they have a duty to tell women that emotional abuse isn't okay either. If they did, they might stop some victims from experiencing physical abuse
I do agree with you, the number should be available anywhere and everywhere.
 
I just don't see why Rob does what he does, what is he hoping to get out of it all?
That's what I have been struggling with.

I just don't get him. What he is doing is elaborate and complex, and I just don't understand why. Why didn't he stay with Jess and control her, instead?
 
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