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That's the one.Churchill.
A man of many faults, but the man that held the country together during WWII.
That's the one.Churchill.
That's the one.
A man of many faults, but the man that held the country together during WWII.
Churchill killed more people in ww2 than he managed in ww1 #bengalfamineThat's the one.
A man of many faults, but the man that held the country together during WWII.
Pitt the Elder.Oh good God no!
Give you a clue, he was PM when I was born.
i think you will find that it was the collective efforts and sacrifices of the UK's working class that 'held the country together' if you could lift your gaze away from the cult of personality hero worship for a moment (which obscures the bigger truth).That's the one.
A man of many faults, but the man that held the country together during WWII.
i think you will find that it was the collective efforts and sacrifices of the UK's working class that 'held the country together' if you could lift your gaze away from the cult of personality hero worship for a moment (which obscures the bigger truth).
Oh good God no!
Give you a clue, he was PM when I was born.
You’ve managed to pick the one bigger cunt than Thatcher there, well done.That's the one.
A man of many faults, but the man that held the country together during WWII.
Got a 12 hour ban on Twitter for calling Thatcher a cunt under Priti Patel’s tweet about her. I didn’t know you could get banned for stating facts.
There's a good argument to be made for the fact that Thatcher set in train the particularly vicious brand of right-wing populist Toryism that has seen us end up where we are. She purged the thoughtful tendency - the "wets" - from the party and left it in the care of a rump of ideologically-driven career politicians whose only interest was their careers, and thus making sure they got voted in by whoever it took to achieve this. Arguably, the lighting of the fires of populist outrage at poor people, disabled people, immigrants...in fact, anyone who wasn't "us" was done on her watch, even if she can't be held directly accountable for the excesses of Raab, Patel, Braverman, et al plus any number of less high-profile cash-grabbing, influence-peddling, morally vacant arseholes with whom we're saddled now.i think you will find that it was the collective efforts and sacrifices of the UK's working class that 'held the country together' if you could lift your gaze away from the cult of personality hero worship for a moment (which obscures the bigger truth).
Bannings for calling anyone a cunt, even before The Cunt bought it.twitter is owned by a cunt who only bought it because he was butthurt about his kid coming out as trans
are you surprised
saying that he has lost billions due to butt hurt
Anyone talking about Thatcher and moral compass has got to be à fucking troll.
Oh good God no!
Give you a clue, he was PM when I was born.
Oh right, we're talking prime minister and now you mean pontifex maximusOh good God no!
Give you a clue, he was PM when I was born.
She did what needed to be done.There's a good argument to be made for the fact that Thatcher set in train the particularly vicious brand of right-wing populist Toryism that has seen us end up where we are. She purged the thoughtful tendency - the "wets" - from the party and left it in the care of a rump of ideologically-driven career politicians whose only interest was their careers, and thus making sure they got voted in by whoever it took to achieve this. Arguably, the lighting of the fires of populist outrage at poor people, disabled people, immigrants...in fact, anyone who wasn't "us" was done on her watch, even if she can't be held directly accountable for the excesses of Raab, Patel, Braverman, et al plus any number of less high-profile cash-grabbing, influence-peddling, morally vacant arseholes with whom we're saddled now.
Pre-Thatcher, there was a case to be made for the existence of the "conviction politician" (and I don't mean politicians who should BE convicted of offences, in this particular case); once she was finished with the Conservative party, there was no space for convictions, morals, or integrity. It was a bare naked land grab for cash, influence, and the minds of the tiniest-minded voters.
I remember, during her reign, when my dad said "It will take a generation to undo the harm she has done to her party". He was prescient, if somewhat optimistic.
...to advance neoliberalismShe did what needed to be done.
That's a cop-out, Sass.She did what needed to be done.
Great post existentialist. Your dad sounds just as sharp as you so evidently are. i don't particularly enjoy accepting the characterisation of any tory as "thoughtful" but it remains the case that there were some. my personal favourite of Thatchers period was John Biffen (remember him?). He always seemed a person of insight and honesty, and dare i say it, integrity. Many of his views i found to be quite objectionable, but his particular wing of the Tory Party were eventually pretty well decimated by the Thatcherite steamroller approach. Such Tory thinkers could not survive today.There's a good argument to be made for the fact that Thatcher set in train the particularly vicious brand of right-wing populist Toryism that has seen us end up where we are. She purged the thoughtful tendency - the "wets" - from the party and left it in the care of a rump of ideologically-driven career politicians whose only interest was their careers, and thus making sure they got voted in by whoever it took to achieve this. Arguably, the lighting of the fires of populist outrage at poor people, disabled people, immigrants...in fact, anyone who wasn't "us" was done on her watch, even if she can't be held directly accountable for the excesses of Raab, Patel, Braverman, et al plus any number of less high-profile cash-grabbing, influence-peddling, morally vacant arseholes with whom we're saddled now.
Pre-Thatcher, there was a case to be made for the existence of the "conviction politician" (and I don't mean politicians who should BE convicted of offences, in this particular case); once she was finished with the Conservative party, there was no space for convictions, morals, or integrity. It was a bare naked land grab for cash, influence, and the minds of the tiniest-minded voters.
I remember, during her reign, when my dad said "It will take a generation to undo the harm she has done to her party". He was prescient, if somewhat optimistic.
No, it isn't. I have stated my view many times. If you happen to be interested, search. I do not propose to waste my time stating once again what has already been said.That's a cop-out, Sass.
She did what needed to be done.
Oh? Would you say the same thing about people delighting in the death of Pinochet or, for that matter, any other dictator?I think anyone delighting over the death of an ill elderly woman needs to have a wee look for their moral compass, it has obviously been lost.
Plenty of Tories supported Franco. Two even flew him from the Canaries to what was then Spanish Morocco.The SNP founder was a Nazi sympathiser, as were many of the members at that time. This is a checkable historical fact.
The SNP at the moment are producing huge merriment amongst those not adhering to the cult. Mike Russell's comment that it is their biggest crisis in 50 years is a beauty. It is the end of the SNP and the end of their divisive politics.
The Chief Executive having to resign for lying about membership numbers? Ye Gods, the utter arrogance of the man.
It’s funny that this doesn’t bother you about the royal family.The SNP founder was a Nazi sympathiser, as were many of the members at that time. This is a checkable historical fact.
The SNP at the moment are producing huge merriment amongst those not adhering to the cult. Mike Russell's comment that it is their biggest crisis in 50 years is a beauty. It is the end of the SNP and the end of their divisive politics.
The Chief Executive having to resign for lying about membership numbers? Ye Gods, the utter arrogance of the man.
Nah, Liz Truss was only ever a kind of fanfic Thatcher.Even a decade later, I still hope the iron lady is still rusting in hell - if not melted down ...
At one point recently I had the nightmare that she had been re-cycled into liz truss
Nah, Liz Truss was only ever a kind of fanfic Thatcher.