... which is why it’s useful to consider what researchers have found about how certain attitudes and behaviours are formed and entrenched.That is a question which needs thought.
See? I knew we’d get there in the end.
... which is why it’s useful to consider what researchers have found about how certain attitudes and behaviours are formed and entrenched.That is a question which needs thought.
They have freedoms and rights but that also includes the freedoms and rights to practice whatever religion others see fit.That is a question which needs thought. I would have said allowing people to have freedom and rights was a step in that direction.
The magic man in the sky is far too powerful for the simple minded though.
You missed my point rather, though. If your aim is to reduce the influence and power of organised religion (no easy task), a defence of secular values has to be the starting point.Yes, I asked the question to Dandred in the context of what Dandred has been saying.
He's driven you dotty
No, we didn't.... which is why it’s useful to consider what researchers have found about how certain attitudes and behaviours are formed and entrenched.
See? I knew we’d get there in the end.
Good pointHe's driven you dotty
No, we didn't.
There is no excuse for fuckwits beheading people in the name of someone who doesn't exist.
Er a definition of secular values might be a start so you know what you're defendingYou missed my point rather, though. If your aim is to reduce the influence and power of organised religion (no easy task), a defence of secular values has to be the starting point.
ZealotBe honest that there is no god, spread the word.
Do you have any evidence that there is a god? If not STFU.Zealot
And you I suppose have evidence to the contraryDo you have any evidence that there is a god? If not STFU.
I gave one a few posts ago.Er a definition of secular values might be a start so you know what you're defending
Evidence there there is no god?And you I suppose have evidence to the contrary
You're moving against the power of organised religion at quite a pace this weekend. Now you've defined what you're defending how are you moving forwards with the defence of sv in the wider world?I gave one a few posts ago.
No, no it wouldn'tEvidence there there is no god?
Wouldn't that need proof there is one in the first place? There isn't unless you are going to supply it.
I wait with bated breath for you to find some.....
So you have no evidence for god then. Not really surprised.No, no it wouldn't
First part I largely agree. Second part is not so straightforward because you still have to address how to support people within those populations who are smothered by certain repressive beliefs. How do you protect both group and individual freedom? These things are often in conflict.For the record, my secular values include not making policy decisions that prevent religious people undertaking their cultural norms (such as banning the wearing of headscarves) or informing immigrant populations that their beliefs in general have no place in my society.
You don’t do it by cementing a “them and us” mentality, for a start.First part I largely agree. Second part is not so straightforward because you still have to address how to support people within those populations who are smothered by certain repressive beliefs. How do you protect both group and individual freedom? These things are often in conflict.
Exactly so. And that is what certain forms of multiculturalism do. Point being that secular values are for everyone - non-religious and religious.You don’t do it by cementing a “them and us” mentality, for a start.
That’s not the point, you dribbling fanaticDo you have any evidence that there is a god? If not STFU.
No one has ever been beheaded because they had proof of a god's existenceSo you have no evidence for god then. Not really surprised.
I take it you are also against beheading people because they do?
No, we didn't.
There is no excuse for fuckwits beheading people in the name of someone who doesn't exist.
No, we didn't.
There is no excuse for fuckwits beheading people in the name of someone who doesn't exist.
Not really needed though is it?
Don't be a cunt because you believe in a magic man in the sky would be better advice, don't you think?