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Terrorist attacks and beheadings in France
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Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Do women not dress to please themselves, rather than others?
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
What isn't? That I dress for myself rather than for others?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I care what others think about how I look. Especially if I fancy them. 
Isn't that normal, though?
Isn't that normal, though?
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
You are inviting other people to look at your body, and some of them will find looking sexually provocative. What on Earth do you think when you put on a short skirt?!
I haven’t worn skirts for years, but when I did, it was because I liked how it made my legs look. To me. I didn’t want people to notice me, I didn’t ask for and I didn’t invite comments or stares.
that you 'couldn't give a rat's arse what others think of how you look.'
You're either lying, or deep in denial. I don't really care which.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I gave that up a long time ago. I dress for me these days.I care what others think about how I look. Especially if I fancy them.
Isn't that normal, though?
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Or you don't know what you're talking about?
I know I keep coming back to this, but you keep setting it up so what else can I do?
A few months ago you 3d-printed a facemask in the shape of a skull so you would look super cool and scary when you were out and about. That wasn't just 'for you' was it?
Honestly, I think that’s naive.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Worst expected consequences might be a warning from your employer or even being sacked, not having your head hacked off.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Of course it was for me. First and foremost it was to test the limits of my printer. If it had worked, I'd have worn it, and if anyone saw it and laughed or cried, bonus, but it was absolutely for me.
Do you not buy clothes, that you'll only ever wear in the house, purely because you like how you look in them? I do this with all of my clothes, because, again, I couldn't give a rat's arse if people like my clothes or not.
I'm sorry you feel that you need to dress to impress others.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Tricky one. Deep down I don't agree with foreigners being jailed in Dubai for what seems like minor indiscretions, but at the same time I think you have to broadly respect the rules of the country you're travelling to.
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
I don’t think it is. I’m aware people looked. My point is I didn’t want them to. I don’t think I should have had to put up with it. I don’t think if something had happened to me, what I was wearing should have come into it. I’m not unaware of the world we live in but I don’t agree with it and would like it to change. We do not effect change by going ‘oh well, that’s the way things are’
I don't dress to impress others, I dress in clothes I like the look of, and the feel of. But the reason I like the look and feel of stuff isn't just created in my own head is it? We build these things socially, from the clothes we see and like out and about, in films, in magazines etc, etc. The idea that what 'looks good' can be divorced from a wider social understanding of what looks good is fantasy.
Why do you have clothes you only wear in the house if you don't care what other people think about them? Why not wear them out?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Generally speaking, if you visit a place, I think you should respect local custom and not piss people off. This teacher was in France, though.
purenarcotic
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I think we have to accept that we are unlikely to start a revolution by wearing strappy tops in a country where those are banned. As a sole tourist I mean.
But purenarcotic if you wear items of clothing designed to show off your naked body, you cannot then act surprised if some people find your body arousing. We might agree that the person isn’t entitled to act on that feeling. But to deny that response may occur in the first place is naive, it’s denying reality. Me, I wear short skirts when I want, and I enjoy the game. But at least I’m aware there is a game
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I'm sorry but I haven't been a fashion victim since I was 14.
I don't have clothes I only wear in the house. I just assumed you would, as it seems you pick your clothes to impress others.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
It's random in so far as it's an attack on a teacher by an angry individual. There has been no suggestion that this was planned at any higher level, although they have rounded up a few of the usual suspects. We know little about the attackers background or his anything about his mental health.
The attacks of recent years were vile but they happened in a context. A context in which second, third and fourth generation migrants still find themselves at the bottom of the pile, where Islamophobic and anti-Arab rhetoric are the commonplace. Millions of French citizens are targeted by by the French right and marginalised by those with actual political power because of their surnames, their religion and their complexion. I don't think it's that surprising that a few turn to violence and that some of that violence will be couched in religious terms. About 9% of the French population are Muslims, a few dozen of whom became the Islamic fundamentalist murderers you obsess about.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
How do you think you decide what looks good? It's all just in your head, no outside influences whatsoever?
That’s why he looks sharp, killer b has some flair. He’s not a nob about it, he has a laugh with it, but the man looks good when he steps out. If you want to live your life in grey trackies knock yourself out.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Yes. I have designed some of my own clothes. They don't look anything like anything in the shops. I don't care what other people wear, and rarely notice it, and I certainly don't care if people like what I wear, because I'm wearing it for me, not them.
You may well have a point. If I wasn't so good looking I might care what my clothes look like. I guess I just look good in pretty much anything
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Any chance you can take this facile shit somewhere else?
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
But you are obsessed with religion; a fundamentalist fidophobe possibly at risk of being radicalised
purenarcotic
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But purenarcotic if you wear items of clothing designed to show off your naked body, you cannot then act surprised if some people find your body arousing. We might agree that the person isn’t entitled to act on that feeling. But to deny that response may occur in the first place is naive, it’s denying reality. Me, I wear short skirts when I want, and I enjoy the game. But at least I’m aware there is a game
But it isn’t a game. It’s a skirt. And I always wore leggings so there was no bare skin. Can’t remember the last time the public saw my bare flesh. Years at any rate. And why? Because of people looking when I didn’t want it. So in the summer I boil to death because I feel too uncomfortable in anything that isn’t jeans or trackies. So I’m thrilled you enjoy ‘the game’ but a lot of us really don’t and we don’t want to be forced to play it.
you guys are certainly getting somewhere with the other discussion on the thread. Sorry for getting in the way.
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