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Tanks for the Memories

Size doesn't matter when you serve the Emperor, apparently:

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I saw a number of tanks that were destroyed in the fighting in Beirut in the early '80s. I don't know whose army/militia they belonged to but they were about Sherman size. They all showed identical damage. A neat round hole of about 3 inches diameter in the side of each hull but the explosion inside must have been enormous. The turrets sat intact on the ground the right way up but the hulls lay alongside them upside-down with a huge hole blown in what used to be their undersides.
They probably were Shermans, you know.
 
If you are into tanks the Chieftain's Hatch is a quality youtube channel. He did a presentation on research on US tanks in WWII that is worth a watch.
 
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TOG, a bunch of old tank designers from WWI were dragged into an emergency program for a heavy tank and it was called the TOG 2, the old gang.

80 tonnes of useless metal.
 
And now the full Spinal Tap.
Schwerer Gustav. 31 inch, i.e. twice the diameter of the largest US or UK battle ship guns. 1350 tonnes. 7 tonne shell.




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Bigger and even more useless.

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Der Maus. 188 tonnes. More German heavy metal than Rammstien on repeat for 24 hours.

And the even bigger, more useless, never built brother. Landkreuzer.

Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte - Wikipedia

Best image I can find is a model for wargamers. It was never gonna happen and hopefully it kept some clever people busy when they could have been designing something useful for the Reich instead of this nonsense.

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There was an article about this picture in the Checkpoint Charlie museum. Apparently just before the wall went up the Russians were preventing movement around Berlin. This boy came back home in the morning and said Russian soldiers had stopped him getting to school; the next morning the British army gave him an armed escort and this picture achieved some fame.



It was only years later, as an old man after the wall had come down again, he admitted that he had just bunked off school and then lied to his mum about the Russians...
 
And the even bigger, more useless, never built brother. Landkreuzer.

Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte - Wikipedia

Best image I can find is a model for wargamers. It was never gonna happen and hopefully it kept some clever people busy when they could have been designing something useful for the Reich instead of this nonsense.

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On another board once I saw someone speculate that this sort of shite was the result of people on the losing side creating projects that would allow them to keep talented young engineers from being sent to the front, so that Germany would have some sort of skills base from which to rebuild (figuratively and literally) when the war was over.
 
On another board once I saw someone speculate that this sort of shite was the result of people on the losing side creating projects that would allow them to keep talented young engineers from being sent to the front, so that Germany would have some sort of skills base from which to rebuild (figuratively and literally) when the war was over.
From the wiki that project ran from mid 42 to early 43. Pretty much the high water mark of their war. Krupp had no background in tanks but did have quite a few rail guns under production. This seems more an attempt to put tracks on a rail gun than anything else. It is certainly not a tank in any useful sense of the world. More a motorized siege gun or a land monitor.
 
Yeah, didn't end well for a lot of them. I took this at the museum of underwater wrecks in Normandy a few years ago. You can see the front frame that held the canvas "bow".

I believe the ones that did make it ashore were quite useful though.


Only beach they didn't make it was Omaha, which was a disaster. Was down to them not being given any seamanship training. So they kept aiming for a fixed point regardless of where the current was taking them, which eventually meant they were more or less side on to the waves which swamped them.
 
:confused: Foiled by the first bridge it had to cross
How many rivers are deep enough to stop it?
Its real problem is how in the hell do you change a road wheel or replace the tracks. And what do you do with it? The only time I think Germanys large fleet of rail guns was really a key weapon as Sevastopol. One of the smaller ones was a nuisance at Anzio, they got a bit of work at Stalingrad but were withdrawn to prevent their capture and other bits and bobs here and there like Warsaw, they had very little employment. You cannot hit tanks with it, the rate of fire is way too slow, you can maybe hit infantry emplacements but for the same cost you could have a hell of a lot of more conventional field guns with a much greater throw weight per minute.

It has no purpose.
 
How many rivers are deep enough to stop it?
Its real problem is how in the hell do you change a road wheel or replace the tracks. And what do you do with it? The only time I think Germanys large fleet of rail guns was really a key weapon as Sevastopol. One of the smaller ones was a nuisance at Anzio, they got a bit of work at Stalingrad but were withdrawn to prevent their capture and other bits and bobs here and there like Warsaw, they had very little employment. You cannot hit tanks with it, the rate of fire is way too slow, you can maybe hit infantry emplacements but for the same cost you could have a hell of a lot of more conventional field guns with a much greater throw weight per minute.

It has no purpose.

It does have a purpose.

Its purpose is to enable people like us to discuss its feasibility/ridiculousness on the internet and in sheds until the end of time.

Perhaps not the purpose it was originally designed for but a purpose nonetheless. :D
 
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There was an article about this picture in the Checkpoint Charlie museum. Apparently just before the wall went up the Russians were preventing movement around Berlin. This boy came back home in the morning and said Russian soldiers had stopped him getting to school; the next morning the British army gave him an armed escort and this picture achieved some fame.



It was only years later, as an old man after the wall had come down again, he admitted that he had just bunked off school and then lied to his mum about the Russians...

Boy had STYLE!!!
 
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