Stockwell Skate Park, Network Homes and the BRX/SO BRX development

[editor]

Another mahoosive private block is on the planner's board:

More: All change at Thrayle House and Brixton Cycles as massive private tower block proposed next to Stockwell Skate Park

 

[SpamMisery]

That block looks very tired. I wondered if they were going to do it up

 

[Crispy]

And Brixton Cycles get moved on again

 

[editor]

And Brixton Cycles get moved on again

I was talking to some of the people from Brixton cycles. One idea was that they should move along to another unit on the same row while their unit was demolished and then move back when the rebuild was finished. They didn't have a lot of confidence that was likely to go to plan so they're looking for new premises. Again.

It used be great when they were opposite the Albert. Imagine: a thriving co-op business, next to a long term squatting community opposite a real locals pub. My, how the place has changed.

 

[editor]

That block looks very tired. I wondered if they were going to do it up

They often get to look "tired" because all repairs get put on hold because of these kind of proposals floating about (see: Brixton Village circa 2010)

 

[SarfLondoner]

That block looks very tired. I wondered if they were going to do it up

Do you think the council have left them to look tired by neglecting them? The old chestnut of letting them go into a state of disrepair then stating that it's easier to knock them down rather than do them up. The classic example being the Heygate estate at the Elephant&Castle.

 

[Twattor]

A pity really - I've always quite liked those blocks. They seem quite well designed, not too high density, and everyone gets a decent balcony area. Ditto the ones around the corner that they've demolished for the Ardmore site.

They provide decent accommodation and shouldn't be high maintenance. Sadly this looks like another example of the council looking for short term profit from land sales.

 

[boohoo]

Another ugly soulless proposal. There was a time when I didn't warm to the estates of the 1960s and 1970s but I have been changing my mind when I see what uninspired designs are being built to replace the old buildings.

 

[SarfLondoner]

Another ugly soulless proposal. There was a time when I didn't warm to the estates of the 1960s and 1970s but I have been changing my mind when I see what uninspired designs are being built to replace the old buildings.

Also long standing communities.

 

[boohoo]

Also long standing communities.

yer - I do wander how many people have been removed by the demolition of Wayland House, Redmayne house and the blocks opposite Max Roach Park.

 

[SarfLondoner]

yer - I do wander how many people have been removed by the demolition of Wayland House, Redmayne house and the blocks opposite Max Roach Park.

I do see a lot of ex Brixton people when i go to South Norwood and Norwood Junction.

 

[CH1]

So what's it called then? New Thrayle I suppose.

What I find distressing is that ALL these developments - New Albemarle, New Higgs Industrial Estate, Somerleyton Road, You New Town Hall and Brixton Central feature this ghastly "London Vernacular" pseudo-architecture.

By the time the developers and the council have finished Brixton will be the new Vauxhall and there will be little charm or character left in the centre.

 

[Twattor]

So what's it called then? New Thrayle I suppose.

What I find distressing is that ALL these developments - New Albemarle, New Higgs Industrial Estate, Somerleyton Road, You New Town Hall and Brixton Central feature this ghastly "London Vernacular" pseudo-architecture.

By the time the developers and the council have finished Brixton will be the new Vauxhall and there will be little charm or character left in the centre.

It seems to be the current fashion. My first thought on seeing the images was that it will be virtually indistinguishable from the Albemarle/Junction building - brick piers and big windows.

 

[editor]

If this monstrosity goes ahead, how long do you reckon it will be before complaints from the nu-residents results in restrictions on the noisy skate park next door?

 

[Belushi]

If this monstrosity goes ahead, how long do you reckon it will be before complaints from the nu-residents results in restrictions on the noisy skate park next door?

Straight away, the clunk of a skateboard is surprisingly loud.

 

[SpamMisery]

Your favourite pub will be under threat

 

[editor]

Your favourite pub will be under threat

Whose favourite pub?

 

[Crispy]

"favorite"

 

[SarfLondoner]

I read a report by Think tank policy exchange, It suggests high crime rates and anti-social behavior, poor health, low educational performance and safety problems could all be tackled as a result of knocking down these "high rise" buildings. It also claims that it is more expensive to build and maintain these type of dwellings,So why are so many new high rise blocks being built.There are clusters of them springing up all over London.

 

[boohoo]

SarfLondoner Many of these new builds will be full of people who own all or part of their flat. When they start to look worn in ten years, then it will be their responsibility to repair the building. High service charges are meant to put aside money for repair.

Previous blocks have been council owned - many council tenants didn't always have the choice about living in a high rise.

 

[SarfLondoner]

So privately owned high rise is fine,But not good if inhabited by social tenants. The report cites,high crime rates.poor educational performance and poor health amongst other reasons for getting rid of high rise.So why would they replace it with more of the same?

 

[boohoo]

So privately owned high rise is fine,But not good if inhabited by social tenants. The report cites,high crime rates.poor educational performance and poor health amongst other reasons for getting rid of high rise.So why would they replace it with more of the same?

because somewhere someone is making a lot of money off this.

 

[clandestino]

If this monstrosity goes ahead, how long do you reckon it will be before complaints from the nu-residents results in restrictions on the noisy skate park next door?

Or nearby Brixton Academy?

 

[Greebo]

Do you think the council have left them to look tired by neglecting them? The old chestnut of letting them go into a state of disrepair then stating that it's easier to knock them down rather than do them up. The classic example being the Heygate estate at the Elephant&Castle.

The same tactic used on the Cressingham Gardens estate, where I am. Also attempted on the Rec.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Do you think the council have left them to look tired by neglecting them? The old chestnut of letting them go into a state of disrepair then stating that it's easier to knock them down rather than do them up. The classic example being the Heygate estate at the Elephant&Castle.

Yep, the same old schtick used to justify demolition of everything from old terraced housing, to listed buildings, to entire motherfucking social housing estates.

 

[SarfLondoner]

The same tactic used on the Cressingham Gardens estate, where I am. Also attempted on the Rec.

The list is endless and growing at a quick pace. Ive got no fucking mates left where i grew up. All pushed out beyond zone 4.

 

[Manter]

Another 'landmark'. Seems to be the euphemism du jour for 'tall building'

 

[ViolentPanda]

A pity really - I've always quite liked those blocks. They seem quite well designed, not too high density, and everyone gets a decent balcony area. Ditto the ones around the corner that they've demolished for the Ardmore site.

They provide decent accommodation and shouldn't be high maintenance. Sadly this looks like another example of the council looking for short term profit from land sales.

That's something we are going to see over and over again, as local authorities swallow another grant cut, and attempt to make up the loss through "innovative" money-generating schemes.
I wouldn't be so cynical about any of this if it were generating social assets, but it isn't, beyond supposedly-affordable housing (as opposed to social rent housing). My cynicism also leads me to wonder, given how well such development feeds into the vision of certain Labour councillors of shedding the "stigma" of Lambeth's social housing, whether there's a lot of nodding and winking going on in the planning dept and the council chamber.

 

[ViolentPanda]

So what's it called then? New Thrayle I suppose.

What I find distressing is that ALL these developments - New Albemarle, New Higgs Industrial Estate, Somerleyton Road, You New Town Hall and Brixton Central feature this ghastly "London Vernacular" pseudo-architecture.

By the time the developers and the council have finished Brixton will be the new Vauxhall and there will be little charm or character left in the centre.

I think it's only appropriate to use a bit of London vernacular to describe London Vernacular architecture - it's a right fucking two and eight!

 

[ViolentPanda]

If this monstrosity goes ahead, how long do you reckon it will be before complaints from the nu-residents results in restrictions on the noisy skate park next door?

As soon as the first person moves in. Kids and young adults having fun tends to upset yer entitled types.