So who's tried a Greggs vegan sausage roll/steak bake?
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BigTom
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I'm fairly confident this thread moved beyond Greggs and onto general high street chains adding vegan options to menus, if not, apologies.
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McDonalds have developed their own plant based burger which will be going to test markets in 2021 - they tried one with impossible meat in Canada but pulled it, now developed their own. I assume Canada, Australia and New Zealand would be test markets for them.
McDonald's to roll out new 'McPlant' faux meat patty next year - UPI.com
McDonald's will introduce plant-based burgers as part of a new line of faux meat products starting in test markets next year, the company said Monday.
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McDonalds have developed their own plant based burger which will be going to test markets in 2021 - they tried one with impossible meat in Canada but pulled it, now developed their own. I assume Canada, Australia and New Zealand would be test markets for them.
mr steev
magic thought wizard
They've already said they're not going to be '100% vegan' (or even vegetarian tbh) as they will be cooked on the same griddle as meat ones
eta: that was for the Beyond Meat one they trialed, but it will be the same with any... the Beyond Meat one was topped with a slice of cheddar cheese... so a lot less than 100% vegan. Tbf though, I can't see them having a large veggie and vegan customer base. So I guess this product will be aimed at meat-eaters wanting to cut down
BigTom
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As much as anything it may be about groups of people. If one person in a group of people doesn't want to eat meat then they'll all go elsewhere.
Plus vegetarians may not be bothered about being cooked on the same grill as other things.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
It's important we appeal to soft vegetarians and not just full on vegans, normalise eating plants rather than aiming for perfect 100% ethical right out the gate.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
"Soft veggies"? The social democratic, change-from-within wing of ethical eating constituency! (Only joking.)
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Do they still do the spicy beanburger?
Those are/were nice without being frankenfood grown in a vat.
BigTom
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idk about BK cos not eaten there for years but describing the plant based patties as frankenfood/lab grown is weird. They are pea (Beyond Meat) or soy (Impossible Burger) based protein patties, I'm sure there are other plant or fungal proteins other brands are based on. Beyond Meat even make a thing out of having no GMO/no hormones in their products.
Are you thinking this is lab grown meat? We are still years off that being commercially available, it's still incredibly expensive to make at the moment.
Same as the rebel whopper then. That's fine with me but it would be a no from a lot of vege's I know. Like the rebel whopper its clearly aimed at people like me who are vege but fairly relaxed about it. I actually really liked the rebel whopper its a shame its not on the menu at the moment due to covid.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Yeah, it’s a no from me. I’m not vegan, but animal fat is a no.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
It’s weird though. I’ve been vegetarian for 37 years now. You’d have thought the rise of Veganism and “plant based” would make choices easier not harder.
I think it has but just in the kind of place we are discussing on this thread. Fast food by its nature will aim to produce vast quantities at low margin. If you're doing that then you go where the big markets are. Veganism is certainly growing but it is still pretty niche and besides McDonalds could produce the best vegan burger ever but many vegans and vege's will still not eat there for obvious reasons. Its a little different with Greggs but then again they're not having to redesign millions of kitchens to accommodate their vegan products.
The like of Mcdonalds and BK have never given a shit about vege's and vegans and they still don't really. What they do give a shit about is meat eaters and there is a definite trend in certain countries towards meat eaters wanting to eat less meat but not change their diet radically.
Indeed. There are enough people out there who are vegetarian because they really don't like the taste, texture or even thought of meat. My sister turned veg around about when she was 13. The reasons why have been largely lost in time but now she is 45 the idea of meat turns her stomach. She'd never touch a fake meat product.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Me too.
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
By "frankenfood", I mean highly processed synthetic food (a meat equivalent might be a turkey twizzler, which I also wouldn't eat).
Ingredients of beyond burger:
Water, Pea Protein*, Expeller-Pressed Canola Oil, Refined Coconut Oil, Rice Protein, Natural Flavors, Cocoa Butter, Mung Bean Protein, Methylcellulose, Potato Starch, Apple Extract, Pomegranate Extract, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Vinegar, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Sunflower Lecithin, Beet Juice Extract (for color).
BigTom
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well tbh that's odd cos frankenfood usually refers to genetically modified, and I'd say those ingredients would be cooked in a kitchen (or the industrial food manufacturing equivalent of one), not put together in a lab. Processed sure but you're not using either frankenfood or lab in the normal way here afaik, and a quick google gives the definition I was expecting.
Yeah, they're all fairly run of the mill ingredients really. Canola Oil is essentially rapeseed oil which is loads of homes and increasingly high end restaurants. You may not want that stuff in a burger and that's ok but it and themselves its pretty standard stuff.
You'd have to get really into the nitty gritty of hippy and food purists to have an issue with those ingredients as I see it. I'm just happy some people are eating this instead of animals.
You'd have to get really into the nitty gritty of hippy and food purists to have an issue with those ingredients as I see it. I'm just happy some people are eating this instead of animals.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Funky_monks likes his burgers made as god intended - out of slaughterhouses full of blood, shit and screaming.
BigTom
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made me laugh but tbf to Funky_monks his objection is to processed foods including meat based stuff, and I assume would include industrially produced meat burgers.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
wtfftw
melting like a toastie
I tried one today. Bit disappointing tbh.
What I really want is those party food veggie sausage rolls from my childhood. Mini sausage rolls (probably from the freezer section - I dunno as I wasn't cooking) and the sausage bit was cheese and something? Not just cheese and onion as they were a bit green.
Help me. Do they still exist? What are they? Where do I buy them?
What I really want is those party food veggie sausage rolls from my childhood. Mini sausage rolls (probably from the freezer section - I dunno as I wasn't cooking) and the sausage bit was cheese and something? Not just cheese and onion as they were a bit green.
Help me. Do they still exist? What are they? Where do I buy them?
mr steev
magic thought wizard
I remember them. 'mini party rolls' or something. Frozen in bags from Sainsbury’s. I haven't seen them for years. I used to like them too.
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