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Sleeper trains London-Scotland, any good/worth doing?
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Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
So why are people banging on about it being better to fly if the thread is about Sleeper Trains
Because the title poses a question: "any good/worth doing?".
To answer it one needs to evaluate the alternatives.
Cheap deals are available if you book in advance.
Train tickets can be booked in advance, from the comfort of your home if you want.
You still need to obtain a ticket for the plane.
You're the one that started on about trains to from London to Edinburgh. There are no sleepers on that route.But this thread specifies the Sleeper. There's a clue in the title.
And your point was again....?
kittyP
Pluviophile
Because the title poses a question: "any good/worth doing?".
To answer it one needs to evaluate the alternatives.
But saying "you can get a non sleeper in about 4-5 hrs" is as valid as saying "fly"
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Not a physical one you don't. In fact for IATA airlines you haven't been able to have one even if you wanted for about 10 years now.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Yes there are.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
No you don't!
Your "ticket" can be sent to your phone.
If you do need to pick one up at the airport you simply key in a pin number to a machine at the airport. Like you would for a train ticket.
You're 10 years behind the times.
To illustrate the efficiency of Eurostar.
A few TOCs issue e-tickets on your phone.
Uk, no there aren't.
So do some TOCs. E tickets are a bit naff though. What happens if something happens to your phone? You're stuffed
You're comparing apples with oranges, as I already pointed out.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
O'rly? In the UK?
Bungle73 said:
StationArriveDepartTravel byOperator
LONDON EUSTON 23:50 TRAIN First ScotRail
EDINBURGH WAVERLEY 07:16
Journey Duration: 07:26
First ScotRail service originates LONDON EUSTON, final destination EDINBURGH WAVERLEY, calling at:
ArriveDepartStationPlatform*
23:50 LONDON EUSTON 15
00:10 WATFORD JUNCTION 8
05:16 CARLISLE 4
06:20 06:36 CARSTAIRS 1
07:16 EDINBURGH WAVERLEY 7
EDINBURGH WAVERLEY 07:16
Journey Duration: 07:26
That's the sleeper to Edinburgh
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
You can still check in at the desk or at the self service check in machine, should 'something' happen to your phone
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
What happens if your sleeper train is hijacked by flesh eating zombies called Trevor?????
Yes. That's what I just said isn't it? Chiltern is one. I'm not sure about others. East Coast offer Print@Home tickets.
Now you're being silly. You could lose it, it could break, you could run out of power, it could be stolen. Any number of issues could occur.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Oh that's useful, London to Birmingham only, when anyone travelling that route would use Virgin Trains
Print at home is not e-ticket.
And enough of the "That's what I just" said attitude, unless you'd care to explain what you meant when you just said that there is no sleeper service from London to Edinburgh?
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Plastic Paddy
None of which have ever happened to me, but if you're prone to being a careless grapefruit you can just go to the check-in desk and get a normal ticket. There'll be no queue because most normal people will not have lost their phones/etickets and will be travelling as planned.
Chiltern are cheaper.Oh that's useful, London to Birmingham only, when anyone travelling that route would use Virgin Trains
No, but it is convenient. What's so great about e tickets in particular?
OK I made a mistake.
What "attitude"?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
And much slower, in 20 years of flogging train tickets I have NEVER been asked for one on that route/
Bungle73 said:
You can't lose them, they don't need posting or delivering. You can call your travel agent as your taxi pulls up at the airport and by the time you get to check in your ticket is issued and you don't need to queue up at the ticket desk to collect a TOD which you then take to a check in desk and the travel agent doesn't need to fill out endless MPDs and phone shite airlines whose systems can not accept MPDs for TODs via a GDS. And so on.
Bungle73 said:
This one: Yes. That's what I just said isn't it?
hth
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Are you really old, Bungle?
madzone
Physically unfavourable
You're just not real Urbanz.
It's not that much slower:
Marylebone to Birmingham Snow Hill 1h 55m
Euston to Birmingham New Street 1h 25m
Neither do P@H tickets.
How does any of that apply to train tickets?
You seemed unclear as to what I said so I clarified it for you.
No.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
So how come in 20 years of selling train tickets have I never been asked for one? In factthe only time I have seen one is when one of my idiot colleagues issued one by mistake for someone and we had to swallow the cost of the replacement.
No one wants to spend 25% longer than necessary getting to Birmingham.
Bungle73 said:
You can still lose your ticket that you've printed at home, cos like, you know, you physically have to have it, so you can, you know, lose it.
Bungle73 said:
It doesn't, you stated as a fact: You still need to obtain a ticket for the plane.
Which, like there being no sleeper trains to Edinburgh, is wrong.
We talking about how e-tickets are the "best" form of ticket, this thread is about train travel, and you just regurgitated a list of initialisms to do with air travel I have no idea what they mean (apart from TOD, which I assume is the same as a railway TOD, ie Ticket on Depature), and which have no relevance to the railway.
ORLY?
Then I guess the new trains on the route, combined with the line upgrades were a waste of time then?
They do if it's substantially cheaper.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
No. You said that one needs to have a ticket for a flight. I just explained that that is not the case. You then took a flight of fancy about lost/stolen/damaged phones!
I asked how e-tickets are better, in relation to rail travel, since that is what this thread is about.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Ya fuckin' really.
Bungle73 said:
It's always been cheaper, but always slower and even with the claimed improved times, WCML is still, in the real world, far quicker and the route that people who are travelling cos they need to get somewhere, will take.
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Plastic Paddy
No you didn't. You said this:
Bungle73 said:
Which is wrong. It was explained to you why it's wrong. Do you now understand why it was wrong?
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